{"@context":"https://schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https://reefs.com/#website","url":"https://reefs.com/","name":"Reefs.com","publisher":{"@id":"https://reefs.com/#organization"},"potentialAction":{"@type":"SearchAction","target":"https://reefs.com/?s={search_term_string}","query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://reefs.com/2013/06/17/arrested-by-the-tang-police-i-refuse-to-confess/#webpage","url":"https://reefs.com/2013/06/17/arrested-by-the-tang-police-i-refuse-to-confess/","inLanguage":"en-US","name":"Arrested by the Tang Police: I Refuse to Confess! - Reefs.com","isPartOf":{"@id":"https://reefs.com/#website"},"image":{"@type":"ImageObject","@id":"https://reefs.com/2013/06/17/arrested-by-the-tang-police-i-refuse-to-confess/#primaryimage","url":"https://cdn.reefs.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/d721reef-to-rainforest.jpg","caption":""},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https://reefs.com/2013/06/17/arrested-by-the-tang-police-i-refuse-to-confess/#primaryimage"},"datePublished":"2013-06-17T22:00:15+00:00","dateModified":"2016-11-02T20:48:22+00:00","description":"Arrested by the Tang Police: I Refuse to Confess! - The Poster Child of the Tang Police: Paracanthurus hepatus is actually very site-specific and not range as widely over the reef as do other tang species. By: C.M. Schwimm* Most marine aquarists who frequent online message boards have heard the term \u201cTang Police\u201d (abbreviated here as TP). Some are even members of this group themselves, while a few other unlucky souls have been \u201carrested\u201d by them. Conversely, there are also a few people willing to challenge their assertions regarding the swimming space requirements of Acanthurids (surgeonfishes and tangs). For those who haven\u2019t heard the term, it will help to define the phrase \u201cTang Police.\u201d The best way to identify an officer in this force is by hearing him LOUDLY express his opinions regarding the amount of swimming space required by tangs (or other species). The author, anonymous but well known to the Tang Police. In most cases, there is the lack of finesse in the approach of these vigilantes. The TP often participate in a pile-on where an unsuspecting beginning aquarist asks about buying a Pacific Blue/Hepatus Tang for their 29-gallon tank. Multiple rude, curt and insulting responses are common, and the OP (original poster) often slinks away, very embarrassed. Now, it is important to note that nobody ever admits to being a member of the TP. The term is actually considered insulting, so nobody wears it as a badge of honor. One forum moderator explains it thusly: “\u2026 the higher ups here at (and not on a whim) have decided that it is an insult, one that shouldn’t be said.” Feeling Like a Tang Although the individual enforcers usually won\u2019t admit to being TP members, and a forum I have often frequented has forbidden the use of the term, people will still make statements such as this: “I just care about tangs, so if that makes me a member in your eyes, then so be it.” This is an important point. A person has every right to an opinion about how much space a tang needs, but if they don\u2019t get in your face about it, they are not a member of the TP. Another common trait is anthropomorphizing of the issue \u2013 a TP deputy will often be heard saying things along these lines: \u201cthat tang cannot be happy in that size aquarium\u201d or \u201chow would you like it if you were locked into a 10-foot-by-10-foot room your whole life?\u201d One interesting feature common to most of these opinions is the preference for giving tangs huge amounts of aquarium space, yet almost universally ignoring the swimming needs of other very active fishes such as large wrasses, fusilers, and parrotfishes. Enter the Professional Aquarist So what size tank do police members advocate for tangs? The tongue-in-cheek answer is: 50% larger than the tank you have, or they wouldn\u2019t be confronting you about it in the first place. In reality, the message board most often patrolled by the TP does have a set of guidelines, based on personal opinions, which they loosely follow. As an experienced professional aquarist, my minimum tank sizes run about 25% smaller than those they advocate for. This is a relatively small difference, except for Paracanthurus hepatus where they suggest a minimum aquarium size of 240 gallons and eight-feet long. This is wholly unrealistic and puts most home aquarists housing this species in jeopardy of being thrown in jail by the TP. My own research shows that the minimum tank size for an adult Hepatus Tang (typical captive adult size of 11 inches) is on the order of 24 inches by 65 inches of open water space, or about that found in a typical a 150-gallon aquarium. This Neon Fusilier, Pterocaesio tile, is an open-water swimmer that needs more room than any tang, yet the Tang Police never seem concerned about it and other wide-ranging species and genera. Science-based Guidelines Here are some considerations regarding any claims as to the amount of swimming room that a fish needs in captivity: 1) If somebody tells you for example, that a 6\u201d fish needs a 100-gallon aquarium\u2014 that is wrong from the start. This is like saying your car gets 500 pounds to the mile. There is no way this can ever work unless you are speaking of one specific size of a fish in one size aquarium. The example I always use is that you can put 10 two-inch Green Chromis in a 50-gallon aquarium, but try to put one 20-inch grouper in there! The total inches of fish are the same, but the fish’s VOLUME goes up exponentially as the length increases in a linear fashion. Now, what DOES work is to compare the length of the fish to the open water area of the tank (length plus width). Put this into a ratio to facilitate comparisons between tanks. For example, a 4-inch angelfish in an aquarium that has an open water length of 40\u201d and an open water width of 12\u201d would result in a ratio of which reduces to 1:13, an adequate minimum amount of space. 2) Comparing apples to oranges is very common in these discussions. If you tell me that you want to put a six-inch long tang in a 100-gallon aquarium, I have a mind\u2019s eye view of an open-water swimming area (length plus width) of around 80 inches. | This is because a public aquarium administrator, I automatically just deduct 15 percent from the gross dimensions of any aquarium for \u201cdecorations.\u201d A reef aquarist has a much different view of a 100-gallon aquarium (usually filled with live rock and corals). Their thought is that this aquarium has only perhaps 50-inches of open swimming room. No wonder there is a lack of agreement in some cases. So\u2014 the first step is to just work with open water area, and forget the actual gross volume of the aquarium altogether. 3) People are really, really bad at estimating the size of fish in aquariums. I performed a survey 25 years ago, in which I polled volunteers and staff at a public aquarium regarding how large they thought fish in the exhibits were. The aquarium staff did a pretty good job of estimating the size of the fish (taking into account magnification of the water, etc.) while the volunteers were all over the board, with a range of around plus or minus 80 percent. The thought here is that some people may write \u201csix-inch tang,\u201d but if you actually took the fish out of the water and measured it, the length might only be five inches. 4) Frequently, the FishBase web site (www.fishbase.org) is used to identify the maximum size that a fish will reach. The Tang Police then use this measurement and their opinion as to swimming room needs, to determine a suitable aquarium size. The problem is that the FishBase information is for the maximum recorded size of an adult fish. This is larger than the normal adult size for that species. In addition, some tangs are sexually dimorphic, with \u201csupermales\u201d growing much larger than normal. This is not seen in captivity. Finally, captive fish do not grow as large as they do in the wild. In one study that I made, a group of adult, public aquarium fish had reached on average, only 66 percent of the maximum FishBase length. To be a bit conservative, it is probably best to use 80 percent of the maximum FishBase length as the size to which the fish will grow in an aquarium. 5) It is inherently easier to add any \u201cbuffer\u201d to an aquarium size requirement. You cannot be proved wrong if you select a tank size that is larger than a fish really needs. The question though, is what is the minimum suitable tank size for a given species of fish? If a fish shows no artifact of captivity, (bruised snout, bent fins, shortened lifespan, etc.) then you are meeting their minimum requirements. It is often stated that the justification for giving a tang say, an eight-foot long tank is that this is more like what the fish would experience on a reef. The problem is that the biomass of fish in the ocean is on the order of one clownfish in a 20,000 gallon tank (The CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics gives the density of living matter in the oceans as: 15*10-8g/cm3.)\u2014so if you want to keep things on the same order of magnitude, you better not keep ANY fish in your tank. The difference between a 75 and a 150-gallon aquarium is inconsequential compared to the potential amount of swimming room that fish have in the wild. Some species such as this Spotted Unicornfish, Naso brevirostris, have more open-water habits and grow quite large. These DO require large aquariums. 6) As previously noted, the Tang Constabulary will frequently state: \u201cThat fish cannot be happy in that size tank\u201d. Now, I hope they don\u2019t mean \u201chappy\u201d as in human emotion, and I\u2019ll assume that they really mean \u201cunstressed.\u201d So \u2013 their statement is then, that fish kept in smaller aquariums are more stressed. I spoke with a researcher who has actually measured cortisol (stress hormone) levels in wild and captive parrotfish (Turner et-al 2003). He states that after one week of acclimation, there was no difference in cortisol levels between sub-adult parrotfish housed in 50-gallon aquariums compared to those housed in 150-gallon tanks (Turner 2010, pers. comm.). Additionally, he found \u201c\u2026there was no difference in respective hormone levels between aquarium and field environments.\u201d When confronted with this information, one member of the Tang Police stated that this was \u201cnot a valid point because parrotfish are not tangs.\u201d Actually, as experienced aquarists know, parrotfish range more widely over reefs than tangs do, and should therefore be given more swimming room. 7) Tangs are not equal in regards to their swimming needs. Juvenile Acanthurus and Paracanthurus are quite site-specific and do not roam widely across the reef. Zebrasoma are also more attracted to bottom structure. The members of the genus Naso and Prionurus are the true open water swimmers; they are the ones that require special consideration. Remember also that tangs are browsers, and swim widely in order to locate sufficient food. This does not equate to their wanting to do this. Many wide-ranging fish are content to reside in one small area as long as there is a good food supply (as evidenced by pelagic whale sharks congregating in small areas where the density of plankton is high). 8) Everything else in aquarium husbandry is closely measured – temperature, water quality, medication doses, etc. I\u2019ve never been able to understand why some people just toss that all out and say, “A fish needs this size tank because that is what feels right to me.” Sensible Metrics They are working backwards to the answer of swimming space requirements. They subjectively start with what they believe to be an appropriate amount of space and then try to develop criteria to support that. I prefer to first identify objective metrics, and then develop suitable aquarium sizes from that. My minimum metrics for captive fishes are as follows: If the fish shows no signs of chronic disease or abnormality, exhibits normal feeding and reproductive behaviors and most importantly, exhibits a normal lifespan compared to that of wild counterparts (minus the predation that wild fish incur of course!), then there is no other metric we can use to determine if a certain suite of husbandry techniques are suitable or not. So – if you have read this far, the topic must be of particular interest to you. Hopefully you don\u2019t think that I advocate keeping fish in overly-small aquariums, as I do not. I always strive to give my captive fish the best possible environment. The exhibits I use for tangs at the public aquarium where I work range from 450 to 1,300 gallons. What I am advocating for here is a more civil discourse, more careful consideration of measurable husbandry parameters, and less reliance on subjective personal opinion. Police or Gestapo? So here is the outcome of my recently being arrested by the “Tang Police” one final time, two years after my first run-in with them. I made a joke at one administrator\u2019s expense (after he made a hugely subjective and derogative comment regarding the aquarium decision-making ability of another person). This was not a smart move on my part – he quickly brought in another forum moderator who deleted my avatar (that had been used there for over four years), they deleted messages in which I linked to outside resources, and ultimately deleted my signature line (which was a legal disclaimer regarding any opinions expressed are mine alone). Of course, I tried to change things back and this resulted in my having so many permanent infractions that I was just about to be Banned for Life. I left that particular message board for another one where the Tang Police are not given so much support. The ironic thing was that of my nearly 2,000 posts there made over 10 years, the vast majority were informational\u2014frequently offering unique information to people having fish disease issues. So I was actually a net gain of information for their community, despite my few run-ins with the Tang Police. ______________________________________________ Reference: Turner, J.W. Jr., Nemeth, R., Rogers, C. 2003. Measurement of fecal glucocorticoids in parrotfish to assess stress. General and Comparative Endocrinology 133 (2003) 341-352 Author’s Note * C.M. Schwimm is a nom de plume, used for professional reasons. The Police will know who I am. 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Arrested by the Tang Police: I Refuse to Confess!

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The Poster Child of the Tang Police: Paracanthurus hepatus is actually very site-specific and not range as widely over the reef as do other tang species.

Most marine aquarists who frequent online message boards have heard the term “Tang Police” (abbreviated here as TP). Some are even members of this group themselves, while a few other unlucky souls have been “arrested” by them. Conversely, there are also a few people willing to challenge their assertions regarding the swimming space requirements of Acanthurids (surgeonfishes and tangs). For those who haven’t heard the term, it will help to define the phrase “Tang Police.” The best way to identify an officer in this force is by hearing him LOUDLY express his opinions regarding the amount of swimming space required by tangs (or other species).  MORE: Arrested by the Tang Police: I Refuse to Confess!

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REEF to RAINFOREST MEDIA is an independent, award-winning publishing house based in Shelburne, Vermont founded in 2009. Reef to Rainforest publishes high-acclaimed magazines, digital content, and books for aquarists and underwater naturalists. CORAL is the world’s leading marine aquarium magazine, read in English in more than 100 countries. Available in high-quality print and digital editions. AMAZONAS is the world’s leading freshwater-only aquarium magazine. Both titles are originally published in German by Matthias Schmidt and Natur und Tier -Verlag, Meunster, Germany, and are now available in English in high-quality print and digital editions produced by Reef to Rainforest Media.

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