MACNA 2019 Coverage: Hydros from CoralVue

by | Oct 7, 2019 | Equipment, MACNA, Video | 121 comments

As always, there were quite a few surprises for us during the MACNA show.

One that caught my attention the most and took me by surprise was CoralVue’s new controller, Hydros.  Wait. Not Hydros Wave Engine?

Here is little background story: 

This year during Reef A Palooza Orlando, CoralVue showed off a prototype wave maker controller which out of the box supported big name brands such as Maxspect Gyres, Octo Pulse, Ice cap gyres, Abyzz, Ecotech Vortechs, and tunze powerheads and return pumps. I’m sure that I wasn’t the only one that was excited about its huge potential to add many more wave makers that are commonly used in the hobby, eliminating many unnecessary wires and power bricks for that clean install look while providing users with flexibility and a huge spectrum of control in sync, anti sync control as well as numerous flow patterns using different combinations of wave makers.

Here is my coverage on it during RAP Orlando.  Learn everything about it with my interview of Carlos of CVTV.

Fast forward three months.

I am on the show floor of MACNA and talking to the owner and friends at coralvue when something catches my eye, making me do a double-take. The guys at the booth know why I did this and are smiling. They transformed this wave maker controller into a full blown controller!! In 3 short months, this ‘wave engine’ company has evolved into an full controller company. Yeah, I was very surprised at this fact as well!  I got together with my friends at CoralVue to find out more about this controller for you guys.

Richard:

Can you tell me a little bit about CoralVue’s new HYDROS aquarium controllers?

Jeff:

First, let me tell you a little about HYDROS, which is a new line of smart aquarium products by CoralVue.

Every HYDROS device can be used by itself—or together with other HYDROS products as part of a larger system. The way we achieve this is, rather than having a central brain, the HYDROS platform is distributed across devices. Every HYDROS product is equipped with its own 32-bit processor which allows scheduling capabilities and control decisions to be made by each device. HYDROS products are engineered, assembled, and supported in the USA. They are built by CoralVue. They are not something we import from another country and put our name on.

Jeremy:

Now, to the controllers. There are two: Control 2 and Control 4.

The Control 2 is $199.99 and comes with a temperature sensor and a WiFi controllable 4-outlet power strip. The power strip also has 4 USB ports that can be controlled as a single outlet to turn on and off fans, for example. The Control 2 has two universal sensor ports, which we call Sense Ports, for things like temperature sensors, optical sensors, level sensors, leak detectors, flow rate sensors, and magnetic or push-button switches. There are two Drive Ports, which can control and provide 12V DC power to auto top-off pumps, fans, cabinet lights, and solenoids. There are also two HYDROS Command Bus Ports that allow HYDROS devices to be connected to each other.

The larger and more powerful Control 4 has all the capabilities of the Control 2 plus additional ports to monitor, control, and power equipment. There are four Sense Ports, two Drive Ports, two Probe Ports (ph/ORP), two 0-10v Ports (one in, one out), and two HYDROS Command Bus Ports. The Control 4 comes with a temperature sensor and Power 4 WiFi Power Strip. You also get a pH probe and a single WiFi Smart Plug that measures the current and wattage being consumed (perfect for a heater).

Jeff:

A lot of hobbyists have asked us about the rugged-looking enclosures we are using for the Control 2, Control 4, and WaveEngine (our universal pump controller). These boxes are IP65 rated, meaning they are dust-tight and protected against corrosive salt spray. We are building HYDROS devices to function inside the harsh environment of a saltwater aquarium stand. Take a look around. You won’t find anybody else in the hobby doing this.

Richard:

Usually, companies release the main product first, then add-ons or secondary units afterward. Was there any reason that you guys released it in the order that you did? 

Jeff:

The thing about HYDROS is that there isn’t a “main product.” You don’t need a HYDROS aquarium controller to use the WaveEngine. You don’t need a HYDROS controller to use future products we release. You can buy a HYDROS WaveEngine to control EcoTech Marine, Tunze, and Jebao pumps from a single app if that’s all you want to do.

Later on, if you want to automate more stuff, you could add a HYDROS controller. You could plug the controller into the WaveEngine so they can communicate with each other. The WaveEngine can even power the controller! You won’t have to download or learn a new app, you use the same HYDROS app. The only difference will be more features are unlocked.

It may be hard to visualize this now since we’ve only announced a few products, so let’s frame this another way. Let’s imagine another aquarium controller company. They have all these cool products, but the only way to use them is by buying “the brain.” Our approach is you can use these cool products by themselves—without a central brain—because they all have a brain. With HYDROS, you can add a piece at a time according to your needs and budget today. You don’t have to invest in a “full version” with functionality you won’t use today because you’re scared you might want it tomorrow.

Jeremy:

A HYDROS automation system consists of as many—or as few—devices as you need. From a single HYDROS Control 2 to a massive system with multiple HYDROS Control 4 units, WaveEngines, and future HYDROS products.

Richard:

Was this always part of the plan from CoralVue or something that you guys saw the need in the market that you guys decided to fill? 

Jeff:

We saw a need in the market for a more affordable, easier-to-use aquarium controller. Some of our team members have purchased aquarium controllers from other brands. Our IT guy ends up having to set them up because they just aren’t that user-friendly.

We aren’t expecting hobbyists to learn a new programming language. If you know how to use a smartphone or a tablet, then you can control and monitor your aquarium with the HYDROS app. You adjust settings by swiping on your mobile device—just like you do hundreds of times a day already. There is zero coding involved. There is nothing complicated about our user interface. It’s going to feel very familiar to you.

If you want to pay $800 for an aquarium controller, more power to you. But most hobbyists don’t want to pay that much.

Some of the most popular auto top-off systems on the market today cost $199.99. For $199.99, our Control 2 can be your auto top-off system. You can plug a dual optical sensor into one of the Sense Ports and plug an ATO pump into one of the Drive Ports. You’d still have another Sense Port to plug in a leak detector, flow rate sensor, temperature sensor, or any other sensor. You’d have another Drive Port to power small lights, motors, and other accessories. With the included Power 4 WiFi Power Strip, you can automatically turn lights off and fans on if the tank temperature gets too hot. You could add a push-button switch to turn off pumps and start a feed mode. If something goes wrong while you’re away from home, you’ll be notified on your mobile device so you can take corrective action remotely.

Auto top-off systems are a staple of saltwater aquarium keeping nowadays. Most hobbyists can afford to purchase themselves a quality auto top-off system. For the same amount of money, why limit yourself to only controlling the water level in your tank? There is so much more you can do! Our slogan is “Aquarium Automation for Everyone,” and we really mean it.

Richard:

This form factor was really familiar to me. I am sure it will be to others as smart home appliance controllers. Does this work in a similar concept? It doesn’t seem to have a main brain console like you see with regular units. Is this solely cloud-based and independently run by parts? 

Don:

The cloud is there to monitor and configure the devices and to allow you to interact with them from anywhere in the world. But the cloud is not necessary to use the system. It runs just fine without any external connection and you can configure it using just your local WiFi if you want to. The HYDROS devices all have their own brain and can run themselves or they can cooperate as a group.

Richard:

I was really surprised by the price point of both controllers and all the accessories. I am thinking that it will benefit a lot of new hobbyists and people that are on the fence about a controller due to the price point factor. Tell me what will be available, their price points, and their functionalities, please.

Jeff:

The Control 4 is $399.99. It includes a temperature sensor, pH sensor, Power 4 WiFi Power Strip, and a Smart Plug WiFi Outlet. It is a great option as a standalone controller for a reef aquarium or as part of a larger HYDROS system.

The Control 2 is $199.99. It includes a temperature sensor and a Power 4 WiFi Power Strip. It’s a perfect standalone controller for basic saltwater or freshwater tank. You can also use the Control 2 as one part of a larger HYDROS system. For example, you can use it to control an auto top-off or auto water change system.

Remember, all HYDROS devices can be used separately or together. You can use a Control 4 and a Control 2 together. You can use multiple Control 4 units. You can use a WaveEngine with the Control 2 or Control 4. It’s however you want to do it.

Don:

HYDROS does not assume you have one aquarium, either. You can use HYDROS to develop a distributed system to manage multiple aquariums. Suppose you have a reverse osmosis filter and some barrels in your garage. Add a HYDROS Control 2 to manage and report water levels for you.

Richard:

You guys were mentioning the quality of the pH probe that will be provided with this unit. Can you elaborate on that and let us know what can we expect from it, and how it is different from the ones that already exist in the market?

Don:

It isn’t the probe itself that is different, we use the same type of probes as everyone else. It is the electronics that connect to the probe inside the Control 4 that is different. The design of the circuitry is very advanced and the technical details are beyond the scope of a discussion like this. But the result will be a stable and repeatable reading that is much more immune to noise and other issues that normally plague these probes.

The circuitry used there is remarkable in several ways. Of course it is fully galvanically isolated, but we have used a technique called “Digital Galvanic Isolation” to overcome some of the issues introduced by normal Galvanic Isolation. But there are also other things that are different, ultra low input bias current, very high common mode rejection, analog filtering, etc.

We have written a white paper on this subject that will be available in a few days. I will send you that, but I have to warn you that it is pretty technical.

Richard:

What can it do and what can’t it do?

Jeff:

Track temperature, pH, ORP, water level, flow, leaks, outlets and more. Control pumps, timers, level sensors, dosers, fans, solenoids, switches, cabinet lighting, and whatever else you dream up.

You can use the 0/10V ports on the Control 4 to control and receive commands from other HYDROS devices and accessories from other brands. These ports can control variable speed pumps and can also be used to monitor switch closures, like push buttons or float switches.

Jeremy:

You can monitor your water parameters and control equipment from anywhere using the HYDROS app. Get mobile alerts the instant something goes wrong so you can take corrective action remotely. You can set rules to turn on and off equipment automatically based on real-time data and create schedules to perform tasks throughout the day. You can monitor voltages, currents, CPU status, and the internal temperature of each device.

Don:

What can’t HYDROS do? There are a lot of things it can’t do yet, but there is very little it can’t do in the future. As a simple example, we are speaking to some guys who do maintenance on lots of systems. They are requesting an interface that will allow them to monitor all of their customers in one view on a screen. We don’t have that yet, but we will. The design of our platform allows things like this to be easily added in the future.

Jeff:

HYDROS is the first aquarium control system designed to thrive in the wet and salty environment of a reef aquarium.  The HYDROS Control 2, Control 4, and WaveEngine are all sealed inside watertight cases with industrial splash-proof connectors for safe and long-lasting operation. The enclosures can get wet without affecting operation and the connectors are rugged, color-coded and screw on securely. These types of connectors are used on aircraft worldwide and are proven to be tough and reliable.

Don:

Critical portions of the HYDROS system can be duplicated to ensure that, in the event of a probe or sensor failure, an alternative probe or sensor is available to automatically replace it. Configuring a system to be Fault-Tolerant adds cost and complexity, but it can also be a factor that saves thousands of dollars of delicate corals in the event of a failure. HYDROS devices can also be connected to a battery backup and will run in a low-current mode while under battery operation.

Richard:

I really loved the smooth and animating GUI at the show. Is this something that will be available for both Android, Apple, and PC/MAC users? 

Don:

We currently support Android and iOS. A web based interface for desktop users is under consideration but not currently in development.

Richard:

I saw that it said “no more modules” in the press release. Do you think will that hinder the growth of this system? What kind of future updates can we expect from this controller ecosystem? Any hints on what you guys are working on?

Don:

You need to understand what we mean by no more modules. Some systems currently on the market need modules for almost everything. If you want a leak detector, you need a module. If you want a flow rate sensor, you need a module. If you want to … — You get the idea. We developed our Sense Port specifically to avoid that. Nearly any sensor you can imagine can plug into any Sense Port. We have temperature probes, rope leak detectors, point leak detectors, flow rate sensors, sump level sensors, skimmer level sensors and more still coming.

However, we also realize that there will be things that can’t be accommodated with a Sense Port.  So suppose next year somebody invents a marine neutrino detector that magically lets you read your fishes minds. It probably won’t plug into a Sense Port. When something like that happens, we will develop a HYDROS device to accommodate it. But it won’t be a dumb module, it will be a full-fledged HYDROS device with its own brain and the ability to talk to other HYDROS devices.

Jeff:

We are tired off the birdsnest of cables in and around our aquarium stands. Aren’t you? It’s downright dangerous. We want you to have control without all the clutter.

In terms of what’s next, there are a lot of things on our product roadmap in various stages of development. I think Carlos from our team already mentioned on a podcast or livestream that we are exploring a new type of salinity measurement device. We are working on better types of sensors. There are technologies from other industries we’ll be introducing to the aquarium hobby for the first time. We are also engineering smarter, higher-quality versions of equipment we all know and use, but with better materials and some clever “Why didn’t I think of that?” twists. Plus, every product we release you’ll be able to use on its own or with other HYDROS devices. The atmosphere at CoralVue right now is that anything is possible!

Richard:

When should we expect to see this?

Jeff:

The Control 2, Control 4, Power 4, and Smart Plug will be released in the spring of 2020.

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121 Comments

  1. TragicDog

    Yes, finally a mass produced competitor to the Apex system.

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    • Lou S.

      I couldn’t agree more. Competition is always good for the consumer. #CountdownToControl

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    • Powder27295

      Been a long time coming I agree! And I just purchased a new Apex!

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  2. John Weir

    Finally a product that makes sense!

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    • shane

      can’t wait for these guys to come out.

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  3. Donaldchalko

    Man I need a controller system and I think this one could do it for me. Fingers crossed. ?

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  4. Donaldchalko

    Man I need a controller like this. Fingers crossed. ?

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  5. Steve Baring

    Seems like a really neat controller system.

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  6. Bill

    cant wait until oct 31!

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  7. Chris jones

    Would love to try it out

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  8. Marvin Garrison

    Very excited about this controller. Love my Wave Engine!

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    • Guinevere Gordon

      so happy to see an affordable controller coming into the hobby. can’t wait to see it in action! #countdowntocontrol

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  9. Mike

    I am so geeked waiting for the release. Been holding out on getting anything new since i first read the announcement.

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  10. David Potock

    I can’t wait to get this product, but winning it would be even better

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  11. David Potock

    I would love to win this so I don’t have to buy it.

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  12. David Potock

    I need this hope I win so I don’t have to buy

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  13. Deva chapman

    finally someone makes a controller that for the SW environment! I am excited about this cant wait to get my hands on one!

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  14. Darren Augustyn

    A solution to get rid of my apex and even better it’s got lights!

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    • Jesse Jhaveri
  15. Kyle Miller

    This looks like a great solution! Excited for something lower cost than the apex.

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  16. Mariela Esparza Montoya

    Very excited about this

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  17. Sean Beaver

    This is gonna be a game changer for the industry and hobby. Super excited to have this released!

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  18. Steven Schiebel

    The wait is almost over. #CountdownToControl

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  19. Osvaldo Garza

    Excited about not buying additional modules!

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  20. John Tolbert

    The question is do I get rid of my Apex….

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  21. Steve Knuff

    Looks awesome. Can’t wait.

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  22. Mark

    Sooo looking forward to this! #CountdownToControl

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  23. Dallas Tippie

    Great Job CoralVue!!!

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  24. charlotte P

    I’m really looking forward to this!

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  25. Brian

    Have enjoyed the wave engine immensely and am eagerly awaiting the release of Hydros. Hoping to preorder somewhere but have not found out if that is available yet.

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  26. Son Le

    Can’t wait to see it. Looks like an awesome product.

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  27. Tarrell

    Can’t wait!! #CountdownToControl

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  28. Jorge Cabrera

    Very excited for this product. Very cool.

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  29. Jorge Cabrera

    Very cool product. Very excited.

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  30. Jose

    Really interesting product!

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  31. Jose

    Really interesting I would love to have it!

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  32. Isaiah

    Cant wait for them to drop

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  33. Rafael Galarza

    Very cool

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  34. DH

    Can’t wait!

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  35. Micah Tuttle

    “Automation for everyone” – love that quote

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  36. Jacob

    Can’t wait

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  37. Tanner Galmeister

    Look forward to it!!!

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  38. Compy Ginorio

    This controller it’s going to be the game changer for all of us that learning the new computer language had become a nightmare just to manage our tanks. Can’t wait to see all the great things that we could do and add to our systems to control and monitor without brainstorming!

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    • Rajuan

      Can’t wait To buy one

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  39. Aaron Dina

    This looks cool and super easy to use.

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  40. HANDSOMEJOE

    EXCITED TO KICK SOME APEX BUTT

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  41. Travis Cromartie

    Get to have more options in this hobby, a product to fit more budgets, and multiple needs.

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  42. Chris Matthews

    The simplicity is what catches my eye, the goal of automation is making things easier.

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  43. cdunbar

    Can’t wait!

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  44. Kevin Johnson

    This looks very promising

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  45. Jesse Jhaveri

    Outstanding work Coral Vue! Price and peace if mind.

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  46. Robert Bowers

    This looks promising.

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  47. Carl Lusk

    Nice giveaway! Ty!

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    • Ken Higgins

      Looks nice

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  48. Ken Higgins

    Looks nice

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  49. Marvin Blanco

    Looks awesome. Simple and elegant. Looking forward to it

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  50. Eric Allee

    Looking forward to reading more reviews

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  51. Deralon

    Can’t wait to see this thing in action. Hopefully a great alternative to the way overpriced Apex.

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  52. Allen f

    I need 1, good luck guys

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  53. Stefan bladen

    Finally competition

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  54. Alex Merida

    Great option for a more affordable automation system.

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  55. Daniel Creeron

    Very cool looking hardware and software. Will be interesting to see once it hits the mass market.

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  56. Michael Vendetti

    Those cordless outlets are awesome, finally!

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  57. Brolin Evans

    This seems like a very intuitive option. Controllers have always intimidated me.

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  58. Samantha Naszradi

    Can’t wait for my control 4! #CountdownToControl

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  59. Jim murphy

    Can’t wait to see how this really takes off

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    • Lance D Classen

      So great to see somebody getting real competition that doesn’t cost an arm and a fin. #CountdownToControl

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  60. Brian Luburich

    This release can’t come soon enough!

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  61. Cody fisher

    A great opportunity for industry changing tools.

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  62. Cody fisher

    Great opportunity for revolutionary tools in the aquarium hobby

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  63. Peter Dinh

    More competition is good for us!

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  64. Robbie Young

    Cant wait for this to come out. I have been waiting for a alternative to Apex that is more cost friendly

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  65. Dominique

    I’m sure my dad is super excited about this one! He loves his tanks more than most things.

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  66. paul williams

    #CountdownToControl

    When people say game changer in this hobby, you really meant it.

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  67. Adrian Manning

    looks like its going on m tank!

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  68. Shannon Lobb

    #CountdownToControl I’d live to try this, already love my Gyres.

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  69. Luke Morgan

    I’m really looking forward to its release. Thanks for the game changer

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  70. Brad MONTGOMERY

    Really excited to see a system with such simplicity to run and put the pressure on the other companies to strive to be better and more simplistic

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  71. Scott Goold

    These products are game changers… can’t wait until there’s an 220V versions too

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  72. Sawyer Breslow

    This controller looks awesome. Love the reduction of battery packs and plugs needed from all my gear #countdowntocontrol

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  73. Patrick Schultz

    Looks like a gray product #countdowntocontrol

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  74. Greg Mitchell

    Cant wait for the release!

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  75. Greg Mitchell

    Looking for to October 31st!

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    • Russell

      looks like this might be a better deal for me apex is to hard to use

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  76. Dupree

    I can’t wait for this to drop…Competition now and the features are way more easier for a novice.

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  77. Timothy Won

    #CountdownToControl Super excited

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  78. Ron Daige

    I think I will be getting one of these for my 220 build

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    • Ron Daige

      Need this for my new build

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  79. Rob Pinkham

    Thank you for all the information! #CountdownToControl

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  80. Josh Mikow

    I wanted a wave engine last year and couldn’t get one. Super excited to hear all the good reviews of it from many different places.

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  81. Tommy

    Can’t wait

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  82. Ryan Reynoso

    Ready to try something new!

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  83. Taylor Reeves

    Cant Wait to WIN!

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  84. Doug

    I will be getting one. Hope by winning it 🙂

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  85. James Bradshaw

    $399 and can do everything I need and more? Sold!

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  86. James Bradshaw

    $399 and can do everything I need and more? Sold!

    #CountdownToControl

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  87. CAI

    Really liking what I’m seeing so far with this controller! #CountdownToControl

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  88. Rajuan

    Can’t wait to see what it can do

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  89. Tommy Drywater

    Super excited! #CountdowntoControl

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  90. Josh Beal

    I’ve been waiting for a KISS (keep it simple stupid) kind of controller. Seems like I’ve found one. Can’t wait to add one of these to my new build. #CountdownToControl

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  91. Gokul

    Always good to have a new product on the market 🙂 Competition is good for the consumer 🙂

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  92. Stacey

    Cant wait to try the 4 out!

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  93. Marc Hagan

    I can’t wait for this system to be out to be able to get rid of a lot cords and make it a lot easier

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  94. Michael Orsoni

    Wow! This is exactly what the hobby needs. #CountdownToControl

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  95. Tim Morgan

    Relly cant wait for this. Love the interface and price #CountdownToControl

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    • Jimmy

      Counting down!!!
      #CountdownToControl

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  96. Victoria

    Finally I can afford to monitor all my tanks

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  97. Scott SPS

    really looking forward to this unit coming out I am glad there is an affordable option coming to market.

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    • Rory Murphy

      I love this, I can’t wait for the release!

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  98. dryan

    Yea, this thing is going to be awesome. and will easily be apex’s #1 competitor. in my opinion that have actually superseded the apex in a few ways. cant wait to get my hands on one.

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  99. jin son

    This is awesome

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  100. Jason Beguhn

    This thing is awesome #CountdownToControl

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    • Daniel Schwartz

      love this controller with its open architecture and lack of proprietary I/O!

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  101. nathan carter

    I think this is the controller to beat them all. Works with many other products and easy to use. All others have let me down I can’t wait to use it. #countdowntocontrol

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  102. Nathan Carter

    Cant wait for this for my 200 build. This is the control of the future. Modules in garage with out wires is awesome. #countdowntocontrol

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  103. Robert C

    Can’t wait to get ons

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  104. Shane Satterfield

    Cannot wait to try the product #countdowntocontrol

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  105. Jacqueline Robles

    excited to see this come out i need a controler

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  106. DAN

    Can’t wait to get my hands on one of these!

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    • Rob

      I hope this drives the prices down on these controllers.

      Reply

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