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brandon4291

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Randy,

Recently I experienced an outbreak of red cyanobacteria which was due IMO to nutrient accumulation, caused by a massive heat spike in my nano aquarium (AC went out on 100 degree work day) that killed off all the micro flora and fauna in the sandbed and on the rocks. One can imagine the micro-population shift that would occur as bacteria accumulate and work on degrading all the tiny caracasses in the system...

In super-small setups, this adds up to one giant nutrient sink that will take a long time to mineralize and render itself inert--I wanted to tough it out rather than tear everything down. A friend of mine suggested using Boyd's Chemi-Clean, he said he was amazed at its performance in his system. I tried it, and yes I was amazed. It removed all the red cyano in two days 100%. The product label does not list ingredients, it just mentions 'oxidizing' waste products to maintain a clean system. From this I guessed they are likely using potassium permanganate--a common oxidizer in aquaculture applications.

My question is: Can we infer that red cyano is caused or facilitated by lack of oxygen in the system and on substrates? I wonder if heavy bacterial colonies reduce available oxygen levels enough to make anaerobic conditions in and around the substrates, producing fuels and nutrients just right for red slime cyano? I bet its moneran party-central after a crash like that :) The system never had any bad algae until the heat spike. Id like to get a handle on predicting these various algae wars, since chemi clean worked so well I wanted to know what conclusions could be drawn from the process.


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Another oxidizing agent would be H2O2 (Hydrogen peroxide). It would be nice to get a series of anecdotal experiments going, don't you think brandon? I've got plenty of queries in my inbox regarding cyano outbreaks, and I'm sure we can find at least one or two on the forums here with folks in the same quandry, I'm wondering how many would be willing to use something like what you're talking about. I know that we have an FAQ on marine algicides, but I've never looked at it much. Something to consider.

Have you contacted the manufacturer, by any chance?
 

brandon4291

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Never thought of that SeaMaiden, Ill start with a google to Boyd's Enterprises (I think) and call em up on the 1800 they provide via the site. The product was called Chemi-clean and in all honesty it totally wipes out red cyano, as close to a miracle for this specific ailment as Ive seen...

This was a powdered additive, and very potent. The directions is about 1mg per 10g, so imagine my peril in trying to dose a 1 gallon! All I did was scoop up some in the dosing spoon and dump it back out. The residue in the spoon was enough to almost shock my LPS, but it darn sure oxidized the red mat. In 10 hours I could see the edges curling up and turning brown.

I will keep this product on hand for sure in case of future events, have you heard of it? Ill find a link and post it.
 

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I'm not sure what Chemi-clean is (permanganate is a very dark purplish solid). Many people have reported it to help with cyano, however.

I'm reluctant to use an oxidizer in my tank except as a last resort because it will certainly be oxidizing living tissue of things you want as well as those you do not want.

I've not heard of cyano being unusually sensitive to O2 levels, but I suppose it is possible.
 
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all products are supposed to have an msds sheet on file somewhere, no? :wink:
 

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