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clive1001blue

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I've had this tank established for 2 years after keeping LR in suspended animation for about 1 year and am about to move it all into totally new water, do anyone think I will suffer 'new tank syndrome'? I believe 'new tank syndrome' is caused by sudden gross changes in water parameters (eg. LFS H2O params vs. home tank params) which shock the bacteria colonies forcing changing bacteria population equilibriums 'competetive inhibition' which in turn causes fodder for algae growth etc. due to bacterial die off. This would be followed by the colonies establishing over time, their 'new' equilibriums which are better suited (evolved) to function efficiently in the new chemical environment. what's the general consensus on the cause of 'new tank syndrome'?
 
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No, I don't believe you'll have a problem. What will spur this series of events far more quickly and surely is disruption of the benthos and substrata upon which they reside than any changes in water parameters. The exceptions to this would be certain nitrogenous peaks which would, indeed, actually kill nitrifyers.

I have only seen new tank syndrome in situations where folks simply couldn't let it alone; i.e. kept doing water changes (especially with vigorous vacuuming), kept rearranging, adding chemicals to be rid of the free-floating bacteria and algae, etc.
 

clive1001blue

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Hwarang":sqtijgtr said:
... after keeping LR in suspended animation ...

*imagines cryofreeze chambers and liquid nitrogen*


... ?

interesting notion however my wife has enough to say about hydro costs for maintaining a pile of rocks. 'suspended animation' moderate light cycle, circulate the h2o column, don't skim, i.e. purely allow the rocks to maintain themselves, no feeding, no kalk, no vacuuming, no caulerpa harvest...had to hibernate the tank because moving residence a lot, kids born, 12 hour work days, 3 hours commute/day, but there was no way I was going to give those rocks away for 10 cents on the dollar, or bail on my reef tank aspirations... blah, blah, blah
 

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How did you keep the beneficial bacteria fed during your "suspended animation". When I have left tanks empty for any length of time I always put a drop or two or pure ammonia in tank to keep bacteria alive. W/O a food source I suspect your beneficial bacteria would have died over time.
 
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A bit of raw shrimp every few weeks should keep larger cultures of nitrifyers going if need be. The cultures likely wouldn't have died away completely, only to low levels.
 

Kevin1000

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seamaden

My experience has indicated that a tank that sits for two years w/o any food source for the beneficial bacteria basically means that the benefical bacteria are probably dead. In my case if any good bacteria remained it was nominal and I could not see any meaningful contribution when I restocked the tank.

Might have been other factors that contributed to my problem but on the surface I don't see how anything lives w/o a food source.
 

clive1001blue

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the tank was never too heavily loaded in the first place so bacteria populations would have been nominal at best though over the year, various turbos and crabs died (I left them in there to decompose) and would have provided a nitrogen source, live rock slough off should have also provided a nitrogen source, never mind the spiders and flies etc. that may have accidentally stumbled into the tank. I have found my copepod (and other hitch hiker) population seems completely eradicated, I think I will buy one more loaded live rock (and see if I can weasel additional errant critters from my LFS live rock curing tanks) and some critters from http://www.reefcrew.com, jam them in a refugium or the sump until they're populous then seed the main tank with lots of them.
who knows what I'll get...p.s. for all the Ontarians out there sick of Big Als, visit "Strictly Fish" in Georgetown, ON. you will be impressed.
 

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