Please folks, read this carefully and please think about:

[Old Man Of The Sea]

Please folks, read this carefully and please think about to if one who writes and types great would be a great help in helping me make this article a huge success.

Now this is what I sent Len and asked him that if he likes that I should continue:


Introduction:
You might find it approprated to consult others in the following subject areas which are to follow in endocrinology, genetics, aquaculture, parasitology and toxicology, among others. For as there is a recent population decline of some eel species. But because of the critical times of the eel`s highest mortality extend over longer periods than those of other fishes, this decline can never be explained so simply.

The data on marine biology of the eel are increasingly important also because there are considerable deficiencies in knowledge of the Indopacific species relative to the Atlantic species, even though in recent years research activities on eels in the Pacific Ocean have far exceeded those in the Atlantic Ocean.

Body structure and functions:
Eels (Anguilliformes) are always relatively elongated fishes for they have no ventral fin or pelvic girdle. For some groups (Muraenoidei) exhibit reduced pectoral fins such as the California, Green, Jewel, whiteye, Dragon moray and the Slender giant moray, etc. The number of vertebrae and of myomeres can vary between 105 in some congridae up to 300. From the eels normal postion in fishes below the skull, it is displaced backwards almost to behind the skull. The gill construction is therefore very long, the pectoral girdle is disconnected from the skull and the post temporal is reduced. As well, there are no gillrakers and no mesocoracoid in the pectoral girdle.

As well, the Anguilliformes are monocyclic which means that the parents die after the first spawning for as the leptocephalus larvae of the Anguilliformes always have pectoral fins, even in those groups where the adults have none.

Within the head, the gill apparatus has to be accommodated to the elongated form. For from its normal position in fishes, below the skull it is displaced. Particular, the skull shows a number of reductions and characteristic peculiarities. The female gonads have no separate outlet for the eggs are expelled through the abdomominal pore. What is also known, the Anguilliformes are monocycle which means that the parents die after the first spawning. The strange leptocephalus larvae of the Anguilliformes always have pectoral fins, even in those groups where the adults have none.

In the early developmental stages they also have a rounded caydal fin that develops in connection with the dorsal. A rostral commissure of the lateral line always exists in the young developmental stages and persists usually from larval to adults stages.


And this was Len`s thoughts of that part I typed:

Hi Buddy,

I leave the decision up to you. Good information is always
appreciated. I believe you are very well versed with eels, although I
would recommend you find someone to help write and edit your text.
Absolutely no offense intended, but your grammatical style is a little
hard to follow sometimes, so good information may be lost in "translation."

Len


Now I very much agree with Len and It be no sense for me to continue if I have none who could help me making whatever corrections that would be needed for I readied that what you see now a number of times and took my time about it making minor adjustments and still I agree that I need one who could edit my text. For I would do better if I didn`t have to type it that if I had a voice and type tool that I could only have to say the words and the computer would do the rest.

Is there anyone here who has the time to read over everything I type together and from your help, and your name will be as the author of the article which you would help me with.

Will somebody help me with this?


This message is from the original Dragon Moray Eels:

Buddy ><{{{{">

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

Its plain enough to see that after 52 views and not even so much as a thought to what I wanted to see if I would be able to give the Advanced Aquarist Online Magazine an interesting article in which I would need some ones assistance to make it so for also in this article, I was to talk about eel growth among many other subjects as well as aging periods and so forth.

Just like in one other species I would spoken about which lives most of its life in freshwater and that the male of this species lives an average 60 years and the female lives much longer, as long as 100 years. For there would been many things that I would had mention in which most if not all that none of you had ever heard of.

The same thing with the larval aging stages that depending on the species, lives in this stage anywhere from five month too as long as three years.

So im sorry if I had no takers for possibly assisting me in this article and I guess that I will just have to go back to researching in SPS coral species selection.

The data I have that took me so many decades to learn about eels will just have too stay within myself until I find some one of some interest in helping with the editing of such an article.

 

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[Old Man Of The Sea]

phi, I'm not offended what so ever for I know my typing stinks and I always been saying it do. Also know that who ever helps with this has not need to know about eels for still you do make out what im saying and that little you readied there took me two days to type and gone over it a number of times.

I not know honestly how long this will take me for I also help in taking care of my little grandchildren and if I not mentioned it, I am a terrible slow typist.

Lets say you take the Introduction and Body structure and functions which you readied and give it a going over and post it and we will see what Len has to say and if likes how it sounds, I will move forward onto the next subject which is the skeleton of the eel and after that I think it will be "Respiratory organs and swimbladder" as "circulation of the blood" , even the brain in which is even in other vertebrates.

As much I will have to do for this article is drawings of a good number of internal organs such as the heart, liver and so on, like the thyroid and thymus gland and brain, even the heart.

I will be saying nothing much of any particular species of eel for the data covers the majority of the moray eels.

The article will however look even longer due to the number of diagrams in which will explain the areas of the eels body. So there can be as many as five more parts in equal size of typing and then plus the diagrams or even a little longer but still I feel what little I done that I had explained as best as I am able too for my problems lies in my typing for I cannot type and view what im typing at the same time and of course I type mostly with a finger or two.

So maybe I can make a suggestion here, who would like to work this out with me in which you will be giving full credit of the article when Len puts it in the magazine for no matter, I only feel that people should see this for you will not find many of these so easy like for it took me most of my life and I am still looking for anything else to further my knowledge of the eel.

For yes, I still don't know it all and properly never will but still the same with all those who are in RC and one two other sites, I feel that im ahead of most hobbyists when it comes to knowing about the eel in general or other wise.

Now if I not mentioned this yet, if you like too that is, do over without changing the main words which are needed for those to know what I was saying and if Len likes it I will continue (Oh yes, I said that already) and if Len likes what he reads, I then would continue to the next part and the next part with take me a good while, how long I not know for sure.
If you would like too then after Len agrees then I could give you my email and we can keep in touch on how the progress is moving a long. For there be days that I can do little on it and days where I more then a half a day or longer. Also I would need some breaks if im working on it most of the day. Please do let me know and another thing, I figured it to be a wash, so if your no desire for this, it not be a problem.

I just gotten a phone call from my daughter that my four year old granddaughters dance classes are cancel for tonight and next week. If I had somebody sooner I could move a head onto the next chapter tonight

I hope that you understand much what is here

 

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[Old Man Of The Sea]

More then two years ago I use to help one person to learn about the eel species and I told him that in time after he has much true understandings then he thinks he do that there be a whole lot of things in which I could tell him about, but he turned out to be a nasty person.

Today I view his answers and at most he gives me a laugh from it for the real deal with this person is that he is still in his novice years that he not even doing the hobby for three years yet and in one site he behave as he knows it all and I have a saying that anyone who acts as they know it all that the person who is looking for the advise should look elsewhere. And you will note that I said I not know it all, least of all on the more then 800 moray eel species world wide.

Data a little here and there is often changed somewhat for further knowledge is learn through those who give it relentless efforts in the study of eels and also I still think there be some other internal organs I am yet to learn about, I just not know what they could be only that I always keep myself a open mind and always I return into the research of the eel.

Buddy

And phi, not forget that I not knew these things personally myself that I learned them through the years and I am only able to share the data of which I do know and in what I had confirmed. For as well, there was a time at the start or before I became a eel nut that I knew as little as the next person.

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

In reality phi, there be 15 family groups with more then 850 species in all, still it is more then 800 8O

 

[Anonymous]

Old Man Of The Sea, how soon do you need this reworked? I have quite a bit of experience in that area, but will be too busy until later this week to digest this and suggest changes...would that suit you?

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

In all honesty, as I go a long for days I not have as much time to work on it and days I will and another thing, I diagrams which I want to try to get together and as much detail about them that I have available for something as this should be known to many who keep these eels and I know that here at reef.org that hardly any eel questions ever surface.

I also have a family member who will go over it to make what might need to be edited and you can go over it and as i said, my only interest in this is too get something as this out to more marine hobbyists and in a magazine would prove an ideal way of doing just that as well as possibly having it here at reef.org by the means of Sticky.

So like when a good amount of typing is completed and after a little going over by my family, you can give it a go and also not forget, you can be known as the author for it once all is completed. Please remember that in my starting years that I knew nothing that this info is something that I learned from many others, those other people who are deserving of all the credit for what you will see and not "I"

I would be very happy to do this, omly you will need patience with me for I not know in how long this will take and in a PM I would give you my email so that I can send it too you direct and then again back to where I will then place it on a CD for safe keeping until completed. And once its all completed will email the article to Len for viewing and then perhaps he might like what he sees and pins (Sticky) this so it always be available to view.

Also, here is another part that follows from what you readied above and I had this a little look over and was told it past as far a my typing grammar goes:

Skeleton:
The structure of the eel`s skull will be described using the skull of the Japanese eel (Anguilla japonica). The skull and other parts of the adult eel (Anguilla anguilla) skeleton, as well as that of other Anguilliformes (Muraenesox cinereus), will be described as adequate as possible in detailed in diagrams/monographs. Detailed monographs on the development of the skull of Anguilla anguilla larve were published by Newton, was born in 1926 (full name unavailable).

First diagram be here...................................

Second diagram here....................................

The skull of the European eel leptocephalus (diagram 3) is quite different in its components and proportions from that of the adult in figure one. Also, the proportions of the skulls differ between the two ecological varieties of broad an norrow headed European eels. The anguilliform skull differs significantly from that of other groups of genuine bony fish.
In the upper jaw a stable, fused bone is formed that is derived from the dentataed upper bony elements; the premaxillary, vomer and the mesethmoid bones.

I'm sure that if you not thought of this being interesting that you not would had made your offer and I do appreciate you for doing so and I feel that you would prove to be very helpful in making this article a huge success. So knowing that this will take a number of months, are you game? Also don't forget that I spend much time with my grandchildren in helping to take care of them or they give me the business for their not a job, their an adventure.

I do hope that you will accept in helping me for it would be a waste for this kind of data to stay within myself only

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

In the upper jaw a stable, fused bone is formed that is derived from the dentataed upper bony elements; the premaxillary, vomer and the mesethmoid bones.

In the word dentataed I accidently typed in a "a" without knowing that the word is spelled as dentated> Sorry

 

[Anonymous]

I also have a family member who will go over it to make what might need to be edited and you can go over it ...
...
I do hope that you will accept in helping me for it would be a waste for this kind of data to stay within myself only

I would be glad to help if I can. Please PM me and we will discuss this further. Best way I think would be once you have all your thoughts together, and in rough form then we can go section by section and distill it.

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

The section by section part is most of what I had in mind and I do however have all my thoughts together with it for if you have kids, more then two, you pretty much would know what im talking about to how much time they take out of you for one child is hardly nothing in comparison when you think of four children for the younger three is one will soon be three and the twins (girl and boy) are four. And sometimes I would like too take them on a long car ride and return without them 8O

Oh-well, I might as well come out of that dream for the reality of it is I love them dearly so yes, I will PM you my email and again bare with me on my typing speed im not really embarassed but a little humor never killed anyone.

 

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[Anonymous]

You might find it approprated to consult others in the following subject areas which are to follow in endocrinology, genetics, aquaculture, parasitology and toxicology, among others.

Do you speak English as a native language?

If so, you need to read sentences like this first one aloud and you will see that they need attention. Try to write like you speak (I am assuming you don't speak like this -- I guess I could be wrong).

I would find this almost impossible to correct because I would have to guess the meaning and intent.

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

Subcomandante Marcos, There was once a wise old man who said once that if your nothing nice to say, then just don`t say anything at all. Please practice such wise words, you might sound to be a far better person then you`re doing here.

I guess also from your rude remarks that you must had never readied any marine biology books, and you think I don't speak any English :lol:

PS, Im not taking your rude remarks personal :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

Subcomandante Marcos, There was once a wise old man who said once that if your nothing nice to say, then just don`t say anything at all. Please practice such wise words, you might sound to be a far better person then you`re doing here.

I guess also from your rude remarks that you must had never readied any marine biology books, and you think I don't speak any English :lol:

PS, Im not taking your rude remarks personal :wink:

I think you misunderstood his intent. He was trying to be helpful, not rude.

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

Soulfigter, I did thought later that he might had not been rude, but then he would had made some helpful correction on how he thought other then just simply making some outburst remark. For what he placed in quote is what some of the things that all will be reading about.

If it is the words themselves, that he not understand them, then do what I done. For at the time when I was reading of them I looked up on what their meaning were. only don't go to a public library to do this for you might not find many of these words in their huge dictionary for I found everything that I needed to read these books and learned to understand what they mean.

You need to go to some college which have within their university a marine biologist library for I not believe any colleges which not teaches marine biology would have such a library.

I get a non-student library card that is $15 for the year and I have full use at the resources of the library. So in short what I am saying is, if you wish to understand what will be in this article, many of its words which most of you never readied before, you just have to look them up im sorry to say.

But also in this article, it will be explaining within diagrams and in words what many of the bodily functions are for without doing that, I might as well forget about even figuring how all others could learn of these things. A good many things in this that I done much follow up research on so that I might confirm these findings that the facts I learned of are actual facts.
My son-in-law had help made some typing error of mine and corrected it in the last few paragraphs and it sounds better, but still Lawdawg will get these in a email to give everything a good looking over for any touch ups that may be required.

Subcomandante Marcos, I do hope that you understand everything that im trying to do here, that I will be receiving no credit whatsoever for all the things which I learned had took me many years in bit and pieces for it is truly difficult to study such things while not being in a marine biologist laboratory or out in the field to do some extensive research studies.
For, do any of you any idea on how slow and terrible its been through the years that in emailing so many researchers who are out in the field on wondering when and if I might hear back from them on making some confirmation on data which I came to learn about.

Also, there is something im doing that being that im no longer at that site. In a thread at this other site, a person had posted a photo of his new eel and he thought he had himself a goldentail moray and I told him that I could be wrong, but it appears more as if the eel he has was possibly that of a juvenile Giant moray. When I the time, will only confirm my suspicions later sometime like after the holidays are over.

I hope I explained myself better this time for this post response took me 90 minutes (for yes, I am a very slow typist) and I no wish to waste time where someone will only make some outburst simply because he or she understands nothing at all. For yes, I too when first learning of these things not understood them as well and had learned what I didnt through reading and studying, as well as any words that I not knew their meaning.

Buddy ><{{{{">

 

[Anonymous]

Sub. Marcos is very smart, and I'm sure he understands all of the words that you were talking about. What he was addressing was that you make some mistakes in your verb tenses and what not that are common to those who didn't learn English as their native language.

Best of luck to you on this huge undertaking.

 

[Old Man Of The Sea]

I Trust that all here had a great Thanksgiving Day

Lawdawg, Hi there young lady; I hope that its OK that I call you that Anyway, I some more good news and some slightly bad news and that is first the slightly bad news, I not had much time because of the holidays to seat and type for the past week and the good news be, I not need to draw out the diagrams which shows the internal organs of the eel.
There was a trick in that for the photos are difficult to copy like when you click on it and click copy and then to paste it inside of a folder and I couldn`t even print them for it either wouldn't allow me too, or that I not had the proper tools to do it.

My Son-in-law had to come over to my house to see what he can do and I still have no idea in how he did it>

For first his idea was to try and take pictures with my digital camera, but then you have the flash on the monitor screen. Then he thought that he would take the CD with this and see what he can do on his computer and he said that he had to do over the first few twice because of a minor error and later he managed to print out and it seems as if he had not complete control over it for he only wanted to print the images and he had to print most of the page they were on.

Now here is a funny part to all this; My Son-in-law had to do a number of photos twice for when I seen what he gotten out from it, I told him that it was a mess for he tried as well to border it around the image by the kids paint markers and then take a picture of it again and when it was up on the computer again it looked as more a mess.

Now this gets better due too my 12 year old grandson

He thought up the idea to spray paint it in "ArcSoft PhotoStudio" and I giving him a joke on it that if he had the idea of becoming an artist and Joe said that it will look much better. And later when I seen it, it did look much better and now the diagrams are all on digital and being that there are too many, somewhere around 30 in all> Len will have to do the part of having each image in place where it should be that a member only needs to click on diagram 1 or Fig 1 might be better and so on for the pictures will take up a lot of space by having them that their open when one clicks to view the article.

So Lawdawg, So that I can show you what a few look like, can you email me back from the last email I sent you? Also the images are large, do I need to resize them?

Now that I think the worst is done for honestly people to draw that many diagrams would take a good long while and my Son-in-law with the help of my 12 year old grandson, the images are done in a few days. It did however take most the week for there be many things one has to do when you have three pair of little running feet in the house.

This is just one of the images: The Spinal column>

Also there be head skeleton images as well with a complete breakdown on what is what>

So soon enough I would be able to work on the article itself, I will however until after the holidays are over will be working little on it for the week before Xmas I will be taking care those little monsters my daughter had giving me. Just like this past week, I was with the kids since Tuesday and the first day I will have a break from them will be tomorrow in which I need to go shopping. I will however have a number of hours that I could do this until after the holidays and unless a huge change in the family life here, I will have some two or three days in which I can work on it.

Buddy :wink: