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JennM

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The subject line says it all. I have an online aquaintance who is looking to do a 55+ tank, most likely freshwater, but could be saltwater, in Anchorage. For ethical reasons, she chooses to avoid shops that sell puppies, kittens and herps - so she's looking for a dedicated LFS.

Any help would be appreciated.

Back to your regularly scheduled fight... :lol:

Jenn
 

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JennM":128qqsoe said:
For ethical reasons, she chooses to avoid shops that sell puppies, kittens and herps - so she's looking for a dedicated LFS.

Back to your regularly scheduled fight... :lol:

Jenn

Not so fast Jenn. What makes one who sells fish righteous, while someone who sell other types of pets unethical?
 

JennM

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Not MY ethics, the customer's as she stated to me.

As for me I'm not really cozy to puppies and kittens for sale, as long as there are shelters full of them. Rather I favour shops that facilitate adoptions through local SPCAs....

Comparing fish and puppies is like comparing apples with tuberous begonias.

Jenn
 

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You mentioned herps as well. Actually I don't have a problem with people selling pedigree animals as long as they're well cared for. It can be a pretty blurry line between self righteousness and hypocrisy.
 

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You accusing me of hypocricy? :8

Maybe she's afraid of snakes - I don't know. All I know is that she asked for LFS recommendations, with those criteria. I'm simply passing on the request - which has so far gone unanswered.

BTW if I wanted a pedigreed animal (which I doubt I ever would, since frou frou shows don't float my boat...) I'd go to a breeder, not a pet shop... but I love my big mutt that would have ended up in the shelter, or worse, and my 2 cats, one of whom was found abandoned weighing 1.5 lbs... and the other was shelter-bound too.

And I've had my pets spayed and neutered too :D

Jenn
 

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JennM":1lup4230 said:
You accusing me of hypocricy? :8 :
Jenn

Not you Jenn. I think your on-line friend may be a little misguided though. This idea that full line stores=bad and fish only stores=good is plain silly. Not all towns are large enough to support fish only stores. There is also this phenomenon I like to call "the saltwater snob store". Fer crissake Jenn, anyone who reads these boards ought to realize there are 1000s of terrible lfs out there. :P Try to get her to keep an open mind.
 

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Mitch, there are plenty of full line pet stores that do not sell kittens or puppies (or herps). Many facilitate shelter adoptions. IMO that's win/win because the store benefits from sales of supplies for adoptee dog or cat.... and the store gets a warm fuzzy for rooting for the underdog (pardon the pun!), and the local SPCA gets some relief, as well as many animals get a reprive. I don't know of many dog breeders, but I can't say I know of any that supply pet stores - and we've all seen the newsmagazine stories about "puppy mills". IMO most people who are serious about buying a pedigreed dog will seek out a breeder, do lots of research, see the sire and the dam, you can't do that at a pet shop, because when asked, the pet dealer isn't going to reveal who the breeder is, lest the customer go straight to the breeder and cut out the middle man - aka the pet dealer. That's a fact.

I guess you could file me in the "saltwater snob store" because that is all I do, unless you count the two dozen Betta splendens I keep on hand. Although last time I checked I didn't consider myself a snob.... maybe I should stick my nose in the air? :cry: I prefer to think of my place as a dedicated hobbyist store - we only do this, and we do it well. Those interested in quality and service come here, instead of anywhere else.

FWIW I've posted flyers for puppies, bunnies, birds for sale or to give away from private individuals, and will continue to do so - and I don't stock supplies for any. For me it's just the right thing to do.

Just as a concerned reefkeeper makes his statements with his buying dollar, so does the pet shopper at large.

I guess there are no LFS in Anchorage....

Jenn
 

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JennM":1qgnofnw said:
Many facilitate shelter adoptions. IMO that's win/win because the store benefits from sales of supplies for adoptee dog or cat.... and the store gets a warm fuzzy for rooting for the underdog (pardon the pun!), and the local SPCA gets some relief, as well as many animals get a reprive. Jenn

Jenn,
Your preaching to the choir. We work with out local Humane Society and their Adopt a Pet Program. We do occasionally work with local breeders to help them sell their excess puppies from time to time as well. We never, ever buy puppy farm dogs. Most of the time we don't have any dogs and I can assure you the staff is very happy not having to clean dogs cages daily. (and poop when it happens) Oh BTW the local Petco also has the adopt a pet days. IMO some of the chains use this goodwill to deodorize otherwise very poor animal husbandry practices in general.

I knew a shop owner in Nashville who was also a judge at dogs shows that had some really high quality dogs in his store that he bred. I have actually met a lot of full line pet stores owners at the local trade shows in the past 19-years and many of them are quite decent folk.

I've seen the saltwater snob stores too. The staff is trained to smell the money. I guess they work on commission. You know the type I'm referring too.

I've seen some pretty disgusting pet stores in my day. I have no love for these type of people. Some of them were fish only.

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I know a lady named meli that used to live in Anchorage. She hangs (or used to hang out) in the #reefs chatroom.

She'd be a good person to ask.

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James
 

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