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THERE HAS BEEN A MAJOR SHAKE-UP IN THE MAC ORGANIZATION due to the years and years of non productivity, lack of results from the field, the lack of conversions and the dis-connect with all but a few token stakeholders in the aquarium trade.... :wink:
Stay tuned...
 

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So what's the shake up? I haven't heard of anything....but then again, I haven't heard of anything:)

Eric
 

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"Mitch, please post a link Does it mention their house cleaning in PI?"

I guess it's what Gresham was hinting at in the above quote. It must be PI staff.
 

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...and we just had a public shouting match at this last Philippine Tropical Fish Exporters Association meeting between a certified exporter and the president for life....Lolita Ty.
It was over the issue of her threatening exporters with a loss of their export liscenses if they didn't join MAC.
It appears that some of the exporters didn't take kindly to the 'protection racket' style extortion especially when combined with the lack of fish supply and the
impossible paperwork demands of MACs fish-less program.
The unraveling of the unity among the exporters association has begun finally and the memory of the shouting amongst them will not be soon forgotten.
And yes, the angry one repudiated and resigned his certification right then and there.
Stay tuned for more installments of ... MACs world burns.
S
 

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I wouldn't say threatening, is dissuading. Other exporters know very well that the status quo in the Philippines is not an option. The Philippines is the most difficult country, along with Indonesia, to develop the certification program.

If there are changes within MAC's organization is a good sign. In many organization changes are necessary to improve.
 

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Other exporters know very well that the status quo in the Philippines is not an option. :?: :?:
What do you mean?
They know very well that they dont have to do antything at all that their government doesn't make them do.
The one person MAC show in Manila has threatened them and pressured them to join as there are no concrete, real and tangible reasons to join!
Wheres the fish? Wheres the alleged foreign expertise? Wheres there a trainer that actually knows how to catch and handle fish properly?
There is no chain of enhanced fish supply....therefore no chain of custody.
There is no stream of product...only a funding stream that excites and motivates the foreigners but leaves the local dealers with nothing to hold, nothing to see and nothing to sell.
This is a foreign enterprise with very few uncle Toms to vouch for it, front for it and convince others to join.
The total collapse of the field work has sabatoged the credibilty of the thing and left exporters aghast at the exhortation to join in and collaborate with it despite years of with nothing to show.
Then to be threatened to join this empty movement or else...? Was that a threat based in environmental concern or a desperate move to try and stop whats developing into a very dangerous momentum away from the MAC way?
They are being seen increasingly as the wrong remedy, the wrong strategy and clearly the wrong team to lead anyone anywhere.
Locally, they're DOA...but kept alive by foreign funding...HOW ELSE?

IN THE PAPER TODAY;

"When AID money keeps flowing, all our policymakers do is strategize on how to get more".
...the Kenya based director of the inter-region Economic Network , an African think-tank said.
They forget about getting their own people working to solve these very basic problems. In Africa we look to outsiders to solve our problems, making the victim not take responsibility to change."

Filipinos have the responsibility more then anyone to save their own resources....especially as the foreigners have proven so strategically and technicly inept, culturally insensitive, so money-grubbing and insincere.
Now that MAC has lost their hold on BFAR thru the loss of their inhouse BFAR liason....they may have to sink or swim thru deed and behaviour rather then thru a strategically placed salary.
Kalayaan again...! Bfar is free.
Steve
 
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dizzy":3jn0k2er said:
"Mitch, please post a link Does it mention their house cleaning in PI?"

I guess it's what Gresham was hinting at in the above quote. It must be PI staff.
:D
 

Jaime Baquero

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Exporters in the PI know now that the pressure for change is coming from different angles. That pressure is also coming from members of the PTFEA, members that now are promoting among their fisherfolks sound collection practices, better handling and holding. We must accept that things in the Philippines are better than they were 10-15 years ago. The ones importing fish from there know it. There is more work to be done.
The future of the industry in the PI depends on how exporters will respond and collaborate to MAC's initiatives. The Filipino government is relying only and exclusively in the results of MAC's certification program. If the final results are "all" negative( lack of support of exporters to MAC's iniciatives), the government will proceed banning the export of marine ornamentals.

Healthier coral reefs, better quality fish and customers satisfaction overseas are tangible reasons to join.

There are in the Philippines a considerable number of good trainers, those trainers learnt from others that were trained by Steve Robinson. Fisherfolks are smart and learn quickly. Steve, you did a good job while there. Those trainors are capable of taking care of the net training. It is a Filipino problem that needs to be solved by the same Filipino people.

The link that is still missing is the government participation to help fisherfolks with their basic needs. Poverty and environment do not mix well.
 

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Right,
Actually the Filipinos need nothing from us....the best trainers, the best divers, the modest funding actually required is already there.
The primary point is however the quality of leadership in the thing.
Projects don't run themselves despite how heavy the mission statement is and how flowery the eco-speak is.

BFAR will not close down the trade if its not in sync with MAC. To prevent that would force us to expose MAC in a very specific way for the litany of missteps, foibles, errors, fax paus, blunders, cart before the horses and alienating tactics it has used to dis-credit itself.
Steve

Steve
 

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I was told about a month ago that Mr. Lino Alvarez the MAC-PI coordinator had resigned and been replaced by the son of the former minister (Ramon Mitra) of the PI Dept. of Agriculture. Then about two weeks ago, I was told that Mitra's son had been replaced by a Canadian. So the MAC persons now in charge in the Philippines are the Canadian and Mr. Peter Scott. I have not yet learned the name of the new MAC-PI coordinator. Can someone enlighten us as to who is presently in charge?

Thanks,
Peter Rubec
 
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Rumor has it that Wayne aka Neasco (the canadian) is the MAC PI Country Cordinator :lol: Fitting, but fictional, sorry :(
 

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C'mon,
Wayne will be a great MAC country co-ordinator.
All good intention...and no implementation.
I'm serious....thats all we've had ...anyway...ever.
I'm perplexed as to how people can still credit good initial, written intentions with the track record on non-implementation of those stated intentions. I mean, its like a guy on the first date....how wonderful those intentions!
Only some silly 16 year old girls and some environmentaly minded [ sub romantic] folks don't learn the difference between stated intentions and actual behavior.
Intentions are not deeds....nor are they worth the same!
Steve
Fool me once, shame on you...
fool me twice...shame on me!
 
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I think the saying goes like this Steve
"The road to hell is paved in good intentions"
 

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I have an announcement which I will make on Tuesday, the 9th day of August, 2005 on my return to Vancouver.
Wayne Ryan
 
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an-ti-ci-pa-tion

an-ti-ci-pay-ay-tion

is making me wait....


it's keeping me way-ay-ay-ay-ay-ayting...

:lol:
 
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in that case, god help us all (and i'm an atheist!) 8O

that will set back both the hobby, AND any reform, back by decades, if not by light years :roll:
 

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