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  1. Coral

    Thank you Chris but it silenced the discussion! OMG....I just delivered to a customer and saw exactly this in progress. I should've taken a video. There was this harried retailer.... no staff help, phone ringing, customers all milling around asking too many questions and 20 stressed fish...
  2. Coral

    For decades now it has been considered that the worst thing a wholesaler can do is sell directly to a retailers best customer. Protecting the retailers interests by turning his customers away has been long practiced by some of us.... We have kicked out and denied the public for 30 years now...
  3. Did anybody else just receive this list?

    COLLECTORS' TRAINING ....the training of marine onrmantal collectors in Indonesia... Coming soon! Good ! Its about time the onrmantal collectors got trained.
  4. Governments Fail to Protect Red and Pink Coral (Coralliidae)

    But.......... they do wanna save the newt!!!! You evil newt collectors and hobbyists! You little guys got famous this week and provided smoke and cover for the shark, tuna and coral sell-outs....congratulations! Going after the smallest of offenders in attempt to establish the pretense of...
  5. Governments Fail to Protect Red and Pink Coral (Coralliidae)

    Now, now....lets not be too hasty. They did afterall ban the collection of the Kaiser spotted newt. :roll: Bypassing the bluefin tuna and in a Monty Pythonesque gesture.... banning the KSN ie. Kaiser spotted newt once again underscores for me that something really sad has happened in the...
  6. Petition to List 83 Species of Corals as Threatened/Endanger

    Why does todays environmental news always read like this; Reporter; "A boat studying shark depletion just went down in shark infested waters!" Aquarist; "So why did you say shark depletion and infested in the same sentence?" Reporter; "Because those are the adjectives that we always use."...
  7. Petition to List 83 Species of Corals as Threatened/Endanger

    THE WILDLIFE MARKET [From the above referenced "work". 16 million[ wild] seahorses, mostly from Thailand to Hong Kong,...,pet trade now ...er, like nothing. Taiwan and China 73,000 exotic fish, mostly from Malaysia and Indonesia to Hong Kong (such as the Napoleon Wrasse) Such as napoleon...
  8. Petition to List 83 Species of Corals as Threatened/Endanger

    Peter, I agree with you and would like to add that the experience I spoke of is a synonym for observation ...and observation is the initial step in the scientific process. Scientists used to observe first and shoot later. Now it seems to catch a quick, often non representative glimpse, a...
  9. Petition to List 83 Species of Corals as Threatened/Endanger

    Andy You make a lot of sense of course. You always do. I read a lot of forums as well as the NOAA one. Frankly, they are often a poorer read then some of the aquarium forums. There is an incredible naivite among many empiracists. I see an innocence that reveals little sense of how to weave...
  10. protect the fishes of clipperton atoll

    Hey, I never met anyone else who was as obsessed with the regions history, the wildlife and the news on Clipperton as John. If he were on our only voyage, he would have been surprised. Several books have been written and we had them all. Steve
  11. protect the fishes of clipperton atoll

    So, The century that it has been closed was long after the pirate era. It was not only open, but may have been an absolute wonderland of odd lagoon marinelife. I mean it had a deep water zone w/ sulfuric influence inside the lagoon ! Whatever species may have adapted to that far-flung...
  12. protect the fishes of clipperton atoll

    TODAY...it is...not then. The closure of the atoll and lack of clean water transfer is more recent history. Encyclopedia; Clipperton Island is a nine-square-kilometre (approx. 3.5 square mile) coral atoll in the Eastern Pacific Ocean, southwest of Mexico and west of Central America, at . It has...
  13. protect the fishes of clipperton atoll

    The protection of endemics in distant regions is a concern shared by many and not invented by you. Indeed, it seems the chemical tanker threat to the island alarmed more aquarists then anyone else! The initial google lists of concern were led by aquarium people! It does seem to hold true that...
  14. protect the fishes of clipperton atoll

    Topics of environmental and responsible reefkeeping is where I have posted the most. [ about 2,000 total posts on environmental issues] Over the past decade I see that Clippo has never had a thought ...not one.....about environmentally responsible reefkeeping before until now.. Humorously...
  15. Zero Degrees of Separation

    I am fascinated in the current notions that one does not have to "hold back, show descipline and restraint, do the right thing, behave, self regulate and support sustainable methodologies" in the pursuit of easier sales at any cost. I imagine that is in fact the definition of streamlined, free...

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