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I don't want to clog up the board but here is some chatter from the NOAA Coral list server. From: "James Cervino PhD." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] ESA Listing for 82 corals To: Peter Sale <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID...

I think when you talk about listing a species you have to talk about more broadly what is the goal of such listing and if that goal can be met.

Honestly, this is what CITES is for, not ESA. If a group is not happy with CITES is the option left? However, what does ESA listing do for any of these species? Most likely, nothing but make those listing it feel better. That is the real question here, what does listing do for the species...

http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/ ... 6480a90b1f DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 50 CFR Parts 223 and 224 [Docket No. 0911231415-0052-01] RIN 0648-XT12 Endangered and Threatened Wildlife; Notice of 90-Day Finding on a Petition to List 83...

This wouldn't be Chris from UCF would it?

8KW, wow that is some serious power. Just to give you an idea, I used a 6KW heat to heat 300 gallons of water from 16C to 26C took about 30 minutes to heat up. We used it to heat incoming water in a header tank, so the water would drain out, then fill back up and the heater would re-heat...

They are but you are likely correct. They will size it for him.

http://www.process-technology.com/ Aquatic Ecosystem sells them. I've used them for more than 10 years. They will help you size it. I'd think a 1800 Watt unit would do. Your looking at about 300 bucks or so. Get an L shaped heater.

Well that should raise some eyebrows are the wholesale/retail community. PETA did the same thing in University of Utah, uncovering some pretty nasty stuff. http://www.peta.org/FeatureUtahLabs.asp

by DEBBIE DENMON / WFAA-TV Posted on December 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM Updated today at 1:42 PM ARLINGTON — It's being called the biggest animal seizure of its kind in the country. Authorities moved in to take custody of a many as 20,000 creatures from an exotic pet distributor Tuesday morning...

Bill would bar certain snakes By DAVID FLESHLER Sun Sentinel Published: Sunday, December 13, 2009 at 1:00 a.m. Last Modified: Saturday, December 12, 2009 at 11:08 p.m. http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20091213/ARTICLE/912131068?Title=Bill-would-bar-certain-snakes

People often mistake the Atlantic Blue and Rea Sea Purple Tangs.

Jay, There was an importer that use to operate for years in Fort Lauderdale, now out of business, he use to dump his sick or unsaleable fish in the pompano beach inlet. This had nothing to do with trying to establish population, only mere stupidity of the operator. I think that is why you...

I've set at fishery meetings, workshops, etc and I've always been dumb struck at the stupidity used to make fishing rules. Another interesting term used in fishery manager lingo is "equitable" which in no way means equal or any derivation there of.

Part of the problem, most of it, is that NMFS has always interjected social justice in to the fishery issues. That is how they can say well we have to let longliners put out 5 mile lines of hooks and kill thousands of sharks, turtles and marlin to catch a swordfish. That is what they mean by...

I'm not certain of the agency structure. I know that NMFS is a large part of the problem. So if they are removed from this that would be a good thing, most likely not. NMFS is like the FAA in the sense that the commerical fisherman are their customer not the citizens or resources. That is how...

Mitch this is classic precautionary approach. It's talked about a lot as the correct approach to resource management but hardly ever realized.

Ret, Are you talking about some of the stony corals that are growing on the oil rigs. Specifically Tubastraea?

It's mostly the introduction of diseases that scare the pants off the ecologist not the target species, rightfully so.

I wonder how they taste. Maybe they need to bring in the chefs and do some demonstrations, aka lionfish. The sad part is that the State moves so slowly on these things that the population will get even more out of control long before they figure out how to deal with it.