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james1990

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thanks for the reply, I have the 9gal Eheim aquastyle cube. my build thread is here:

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/nano-tanks/121571-eheim-aquastyle-9gal-setup.html

I would like to build the sump in here:
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my goals are: to run the tank with no equipment hanging on it. (I dont want to drill for bulkheads) To have a refugium to help balance the PH,Nitrite/trates and ammonia with macro algae and rock.

I was thinking of maybe a 5gal or 10gal? thanks!
 

rkaragozler

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yes knowing what size skimmer and return pump would help in building a sump.
as far as the area you want to install it in, you need to brace the area a little more to hold the weight.
Here is a sump that I built for a member here, it is a 15x15x15.
you can build one to your specs of the stand.
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james1990

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thanks, im having some noob issues with the plumbing, I ended up buying the Eshoppes NANO overflow box over the DIY PVC, now im not sure how to plumb it 2 1/2 feet down into my sump? Can I just go straight down on the drain using a 45 degree elbow and possibly a Union for disassembly?

As for the return, should I use a WYE check valve? and a union? where do these go?

HELP!!! haha
 

rbtwo4

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Well no equipment hanging ur gonna need an overflow box hanging from ur DT cus it ain't rr. As for ur sump u need to know the size of ur skimmer ur gonna use and return pump. As I stated before the MJ900 will not work at least I don't think it will.
 

james1990

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ha, Not wanting to drill into this tank, I went ahead and bought the nano overflow from Eshoppes, and just picked up this simple sump on nanoreef:
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Same dimensions as a standard AGA 10 gallon 20X10X12

Now I need to figure out a way to make a fuge, add a baffle? what do you guys suggest?
 

james1990

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LOL @the statues, I was against it but for some reason they dont stick out too much and they go with my "ZEN" theme. No religion connection but they look peaceful

Ill post up a new pic when my new frag decides to open up on me
 

james1990

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good call on the check valve rkaragozler, works out since I cant find one anywhere LOL

I saw your build and its by far my favorite tank. Its tanks like yours that make me feel like im a little boy again. Amazing dedication, and you give back to the forum and help guys like me just starting out. Thank you

I could use help with the plumbing
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/members/rkaragozler.html
 

james1990

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The overflow box has a 3/4 bulkhead, Is that the correct size pvc for my 9gal setup? I heard 1 inch is more commonplace. Im just confused about determining what GPH I need on my tank. Here is a quick diagram I have drawn.
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you may opt to put in a sock holder to diffuse the incoming water from the waterflow OR pipe it into a DIY PVC spray bar that sits at the water surface with holes drilled all around it and a lot of them so that there is no restriction. That will minimize the splashing and salt creep. after you do that you may not need a baffle at all. The only reasons for the baffle is so that you can maintain the sand/mud in place and so that water runs evenly thru the fuge so that you're maximizing on the capacity of your fuge and to act as a bubble trap. The height of the baffle may be determined based on the optimal water level that a specific skimmer may require. So if the skimmer chamber needs 8" of water than you may end up putting in 3 baffles to difuse the and slow down the water so it doesn't disturb the sand/mud bed.



You can also drill your sump and hook up an external skimmer which is sometimes easier but if the skimmer were to overflow then it would be best to have it in the rubbermaid container that DarkenReef suggested.

If by chance something big goes down your overflow it can clog it enough to the point that water overflows out of your display so just keep that in mind.

Also if the sock gets clogged, it will cause water to splash so make sure that it is set low enough so that any splashing that takes place is far enough below the top of the sump that it can't go over the sump walls.

I would just do a spray bar to diffuse the water on that small of a tank.

If you're going to do a skimmer than you should place the baffle about half the distance from the begining of the sump to the first existing baffle.
 

rkaragozler

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Thank you for the compliments, and when you're up and running i'll frag some coral for you.
great suggestions Reef Fixations
what skimmer are you using?
what is the running water level.
which return pump?
can you give us the exact dimensions of the first chamber, and second chamber. (internal)
the height of the baffles also.

as far as your drawing goes.
1-you might want to rethink doing everything in pvc, and use flex hose.
2-the size of the hose will be determined by what return pump you are using.
3-and think about putting the t the other way and add another valve.
 

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