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citytyger

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Does anyone have links/thoughts for making a chiller out of things i can find off craigslist like a small cube refrigerator or something of the like?

Thank you all:)

Tony
 
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Nope. they dont' work. The fridge has to run all the time and it burns out the motor.

welcome to RDO!

B
 
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Yeah, this has come up from time to time. Basically the compressor in a frig just don't have the power to keep gallons and gallons of water chilled.
 

citytyger

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Ok so cube fridge is out:(

I'm sure you guys have some good ideas/links for me to browse?
What works?

Thanks dupaboy1992,Bingo.



Tony
 
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>...My chiller ran a total of $175 once completed (without the 6 pack), still significantly cheaper than a commercial unit.

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1, hard to find the wattage of the dorm refrigerator. Need to look at cost per watt (or hp) for these DIY and the commerical chiller.

2, compressor need to be heavy duty. Refrigerator is not meant to run 12 hours a day.
 
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Air is a poor heat transfer media compare to direct contact chilling, and oftentime you want to chill just the tank, not the entire room. Hate to have the living room to be at 50 F all day.
 

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so far all i've really heard is a dorm refrigerator idea. Now isn't there a way to utilize that without running a heater along with it to compensate for the refrigerator?
What if you kept a small(rather than the advised large mass of coil) amount of line in the fridge with some sort of temp sensor in the tank connected to a slow pump that would turn on if the tank reached its maximum allowable temp. Then the slow pump would kick in and that little bit of cooler line that would instantly dump in the tank would not effect it to the point of "shock" but while the pump is on would gradually bring the tank back to specified operating temp, to do this the cooler temp would have to stay above freezing, as to keep the water in the dormant line liquid. And i would need keep the cooler stocked with the proper amount of line to loose enough heat before returning to the tank, and right flow, and keep the cooler full of something like water jugs to help maintain temperature within the compartment. Also, the temp switch i was describing, wonder if that is readily available somewhere?

What does everyone think of that nutty idea? I'm sure someone(not me) is capable of coming up with a mathematical equation for this:)

Tony
 
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There are temperature controller, check out any reef hardware store like marinedepot.com or your local fish store.

However, unless you are running a very small tank, or have very little heat that could be taken care of with evaporative cooling, I don't think a small fridge will give your tank much of a thermal shock.
 
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dupaboy1992":39troqen said:
Air is a poor heat transfer media compare to direct contact chilling, and oftentime you want to chill just the tank, not the entire room. Hate to have the living room to be at 50 F all day.


No not the entire room.

But I was thinking of building an insulated box around the "room" end of the air conditioner. And have tubing run through the box. So instead of cooling the entire room you are just cooling the inside of the box.

Of course the "outside" of the airconditioner would still have to exhaust the heated air outside the room where the tank is.


Just wondered if anyone had triet that.

BTUs per hour seem higher on air conditioners and obviously they do have to run all the time in the summer.
 
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beaslbob":3pyana3g said:
dupaboy1992":3pyana3g said:
Air is a poor heat transfer media compare to direct contact chilling, and oftentime you want to chill just the tank, not the entire room. Hate to have the living room to be at 50 F all day.


No not the entire room.

But I was thinking of building an insulated box around the "room" end of the air conditioner. And have tubing run through the box. So instead of cooling the entire room you are just cooling the inside of the box.

Of course the "outside" of the airconditioner would still have to exhaust the heated air outside the room where the tank is.


Just wondered if anyone had triet that.

BTUs per hour seem higher on air conditioners and obviously they do have to run all the time in the summer.

You can use the compressor of a window unit. You need to chaing out the supplied coils for one the is SW friendly. They come sized to match the compressor. Put the coil in a housing. That wany you can have the widow unit in a window to vet the heat and the coil by the tank. I've seen some DIY threads with chillers made out of the small spit units, like a regular home AC unit just sized for one room. You need an AC man to hook it up, but IMO the best solution for a chiller.
 
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The coil will likely be titanium, and most regular AC people don't have tool to work with it, and it is not cheap either (a couple hundred bucks for a 1/2 horse heat exchanger)
 
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Almost as well as most of the metal, and this is why almost all marine-grade heat exchanger out there are all make of CP-grade titanium.
 
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There's a thread on RC about a guy who built a DIY chiller, he did NOT go the 'fridge route. I can't recall the exact specifics but go hunting around their DIY section, I'm fairly sure that it'll be a semi-recent post being as it generates quite a few replies
 
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The tubing was bent with a tubing bender meant for refrigeration work.

You can get them cheaper, but I think this one was about $200. Worth it, though. It always bends just how you want it to.
I don't know if he mean the bender is $200, or the tubing is $200. I think he means the bender. Anyway, the tricky part is the tubing. It is stainless steel, but I don't know how long it going to last in seawater. Depends on the grade of stainless steel, some won't last too long in seawater.
 

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I have been thinking about the "dorm refrigerator" chiller DIY. Would it be more effective if the coil of tubing were in a container filled with liquid, H2O, antifreeze? Since the mass of the interior of the fridge is full it will maintain the cool temps better. right? and I believe liquid transfers heat better, right? Or did I smoke my breakfast? 8O Just a thought, my sump is in the basement so I'm not real concerned about looks.
 

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I actually considered pokeing a hole in the ends of a chest freezer and then placing a coil of tubeing in it.
I know that stainless steel, or titanium is the "better" for heat transfer, but honestly, why not an external pump pushing the water through a few hundred feet of rubber tubeing coiled inside a chest freezer?

Sorry was a rough idea I was going to look into when I considered setting up an outside growout system for propagation. when it gets 120 degrees here I was concerned.
 

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