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Venomous lionfish prowls fragile Caribbean waters
By DAVID McFADDEN, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 48 minutes ago


A maroon-striped marauder with venomous spikes is rapidly multiplying in the Caribbean's warm waters, swallowing native species, stinging divers and generally wreaking havoc on an ecologically delicate region.
The red lionfish, a tropical native of the Indian and Pacific oceans that probably escaped from a Florida fish tank, is showing up everywhere ? from the coasts of Cuba and Hispaniola to Little Cayman's pristine Bloody Bay Wall, one of the region's prime destinations for divers.
Wherever it appears, the adaptable predator corners fish and crustaceans up to half its size with its billowy fins and sucks them down in one violent gulp.
Research teams observed one lionfish eating 20 small fish in less than 30 minutes.
"This may very well become the most devastating marine invasion in history," said Mark Hixon, an Oregon State University marine ecology expert who compared lionfish to a plague of locusts. "There is probably no way to stop the invasion completely."
A white creature with maroon stripes, the red lionfish has the face of an alien and the ribbony look of something that survived a paper shredder ? with poisonous spikes along its spine to ward off enemies.
The invasion is similar to that of other aquarium escapees such as walking catfish and caulerpa, a fast-growing form of algae known as "killer seaweed" for its ability to crowd out native plants. The catfish are now common in South Florida, where they threaten smaller fish in wetlands and fish farms.
In Africa, the Nile Perch rendered more than 200 fish species extinct when it was introduced into Lake Victoria. The World Conservation Union calls it one of the 100 worst alien species invasions.
"Those kinds of things happen repeatedly in fresh water," Hixon said. "But we've not seen such a large predatory invasion in the ocean before."
The lionfish so far has been concentrated in the Bahamas, where marine biologists are seeing it in every habitat: in shallow and deep reefs, off piers and beaches, and perhaps most worrisome, in mangrove thickets that are vital habitats for baby fish.
Some spots in the Bahamian archipelago between New Providence and the Berry Islands are reporting a tenfold increase in lionfish just during the last year.
Northern Caribbean islands have sounded the alarm, encouraging fishermen to capture lionfish and divers to report them for eradication.
The invasion would be "devastating" to fisheries and recreational diving if it reached Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, according to Eugenio Pineiro-Soler of the Caribbean Fishery Management Council.
"I think at the best they will have a huge impact on reef fish, and at the worst will result in the disappearance of most reef fish," said Bruce Purdy, a veteran dive operator who has helped the marine conservation group REEF with expeditions tracking the invasion.
Purdy said he has been stung several times while rounding up lionfish ? once badly.
"It was so painful, it made me want to cut my own hand off," he said.
Researchers believe lionfish were introduced into the Atlantic in 1992, when Hurricane Andrew shattered a private aquarium and six of them spilled into Miami's Biscayne Bay, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Biologists think the fish released floating sacs of eggs that rode the Gulf Stream north along the U.S. coast, leading to colonization of deep reefs off North Carolina and Bermuda. Lionfish have even been spotted as far north as Rhode Island in summer months, NOAA said.
They are not aggressive toward humans, and their sting is not fatal. There are no estimates so far of tourists who have been stung. But marine officials say swimmers will be more at risk as the venomous species overtakes tropical waters along popular Caribbean beaches.
The slow-moving fish, which measures about 18 inches, is easy to snare, though lionfish swim too deep for divers to catch in nets ? a common method of dealing with invasive species.
So researchers are scrambling to figure out what will eat the menacing beauties in their new Caribbean home, experimenting with predators such as sharks, moray eels ? and even humans.
Adventurous eaters describe the taste of lionfish fillets as resembling halibut. But so far, they are a tough sell. Hungry sharks typically veer abruptly when researchers try to hand-feed them a lionfish.
"We have gotten (sharks) to successfully eat a lionfish, but it has been a lot of work. Most of our attempts with the moray eel have been unsuccessful," said Andy Dehart of the National Aquarium in Washington, who is working with REEF in the Bahamas.
One predator that will eat lionfish is grouper, which are rare in the lionfish's natural Southeast-Asian habitat. Scientists are pinning long-range hopes on the establishment of new ocean reserves to protect grouper and other lionfish predators from overfishing.
Hixon said there is some evidence that lionfish have not invaded reefs of the fully protected Exuma Cays Land and Sea Park, a 176-square-mile reserve southeast of Nassau. But unprotected locations in the vast archipelago are more vulnerable.
Containing the spread of the lionfish is an uphill fight. As lionfish colonize more territory in the Caribbean, they feed on grazing fish that keep seaweed from overwhelming coral reefs already buffeted by climate change, pollution and other environmental pressures.
Dehart said: "If we start losing these smaller reef fish as food to the lionfish ... we could be in a whirlwind for bad things coming to the reef ecosystem." ___
 

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Just a thought, and probably a stupid one at that:

When I hear how human influence in the enviornment causes a distruction of the previous enviornment im kind left with ?????? Because in reality we are just a product of evolution there fore we are natural animals effecting natural animals. Yet we feel guilt. Of course polution do to the industrialization can be argued (even though I feel our industrialization is a product of our "survival instincts", basically no fur, big fangs, our thinking mechanisms were forced to develop ultimately ending in tools-machines-pollution.

Now to the point at hand although the immediate results will be devistating, that area will find a way to deal with this predator. Eventually it will be just another fish in the hierarchtical food chain. Some damn turtle of crab is gonna get a taste for lionfish and in 100 years things will be normal (or at least by the people scooba diving at the time stressing the new invading species).

AHHH some meaningless semi tired bored dribble
 

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Just a thought, and probably a stupid one at that:

When I hear how human influence in the enviornment causes a distruction of the previous enviornment im kind left with ?????? Because in reality we are just a product of evolution there fore we are natural animals effecting natural animals. Yet we feel guilt. Of course polution do to the industrialization can be argued (even though I feel our industrialization is a product of our "survival instincts", basically no fur, big fangs, our thinking mechanisms were forced to develop ultimately ending in tools-machines-pollution.

Now to the point at hand although the immediate results will be devistating, that area will find a way to deal with this predator. Eventually it will be just another fish in the hierarchtical food chain. Some damn turtle of crab is gonna get a taste for lionfish and in 100 years things will be normal (or at least by the people scooba diving at the time stressing the new invading species).

AHHH some meaningless semi tired bored dribble

Maybe humans WERE a product of evolution, but we have effectively stopped that process for the most part. We now have anti biodics, medical research yadda yadda which has destroyed the natural selection process in our species. So now we are reproducing uncontrollably with no real checks in population levels.

Humans are the only species who can so radically alter their environment. How natural is it if one day we chop every single tree down in the world destroying countless habitats? That will happen soon probably.
 

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So now we are reproducing uncontrollably with no real checks in population levels.

Cancer, Aids, Ebola virus, and I'm sure there's a few other checks.
I think humans are still evolving, just that you really can't see it happening unless you look past a few million years. We still have a tailbone which is pretty useless. not to mention appendix as well.

Natural selection though has stopped existing with humans though because you would assume the obese genes would have been weeded out (not to insult if you're fat). Not to mention people with disabilities wouldn't stand a chance if it weren't for modern society.
 

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thats what I mean. I agree. But even though we have cancer, we also have ways of treating it so the genes are still largely passed down. Medical innovation has pervaded even the most primitive societies in some capacity.
 

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I have volunteered with Blackbeards Cruises (A live-a-board dive ship) out of the Bahamas (REEF is on these vessels) they were one of the first groups to go out with NOAA and collect data on this species migrating/or being deposited in our coastal and Caribbean waters. The first year I did it on '06 we only logged about 7 of them in the reefs surrounding Grand Bahama and the Exumas. This year, '08, while diving there we caught and logged 77 different fish. After examining the contents of the stomach's we found that almost all of them had the remains of fairy baslets inside them - in no small part the reason why we saw almost none of these fish on the reefs we were collecting at. We also found evidence that almost every other critter on the reef, could at one point or another fall victim to them. If they can fit into their mouths, they will eat it, or try. Unfortunately there is no check/balance for these fish and they have absolutely no known predator in these waters, I even saw one turn a tiger shark around after it got too close. The main reason probably was that the Tiger had no idea what this creature was and most likely was not scared, but saw no interest in figuring out if it could become food or not. So unless something else is done, this is a problem that will certainly get much worse before it gets any better...just my two cents...
 
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Just a thought, and probably a stupid one at that:

When I hear how human influence in the enviornment causes a distruction of the previous enviornment im kind left with ?????? Because in reality we are just a product of evolution there fore we are natural animals effecting natural animals. Yet we feel guilt. Of course polution do to the industrialization can be argued (even though I feel our industrialization is a product of our "survival instincts", basically no fur, big fangs, our thinking mechanisms were forced to develop ultimately ending in tools-machines-pollution.

Now to the point at hand although the immediate results will be devistating, that area will find a way to deal with this predator. Eventually it will be just another fish in the hierarchtical food chain. Some damn turtle of crab is gonna get a taste for lionfish and in 100 years things will be normal (or at least by the people scooba diving at the time stressing the new invading species).

AHHH some meaningless semi tired bored dribble

For arguments sake, lets say evolution is true.Lets try to keep intelligent design out of the conversation, those arguments never end well.Politics as well.

While we are just products of evolution. We are way more advanced then any other species to the point that we are harmful to our environment and in the end you can blame evolution for creating such a creature that is "perfect" enough to destroy the rest, we still all end up with a big problem for us no matter who/what is to blame.



Back on topic.
Collection for our trade could be a solution although it did say collection was tough. Maybe someone will find a way to make more efficient collection, thats why we have smart people out there:tongue1:.Perhaps we see these guys at low prices and high frequencies like damsels, they do look nice:biggrin:. Finding a predator is obviously a problem because of all those spines, and they are doing the damage a little to quickly for some predator to evolve(evolution,not the quickest proccess out there).Just letting things be and having nature solve the problems we create is a big moral issue I don't feel like getting in to.
 

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