Wich are the most hardy freshwater plants?

[Anonymous]

Wich are the most hardy freshwater plants?

 

[fishfanatic2]

Bolbitis, Java Fern, and Java moss, Valisneria (sp?), some anubias, and some crypts if you don't screw with them.

 

[Anonymous]

although slow growing, I have had amazon swords in tanks for years and years.

Although they become stingy very quickly, I have anacharis(sp) to be excellent in rapidily establish new tanks.

I also liks vals. But they seem to be less effective than anacharis in establishing new tanks.

 

[lashilia]

I like java moss in my low-lit tanks b/c it steals the nutrients that filament algae grow on otherwise. Plus the fish like to lay in it and munch on it.

 

[Anonymous]

although slow growing, I have had amazon swords in tanks for years and years.

Although they become stingy very quickly, I have anacorus (sp) to be excellent in rapidily establish new tanks.

I also liks vals. But they seem to be less effective than anacorus in establishing new tanks.

if your anacharis is getting stringy, check the Ca, and alk level, and improve your lighting

 

[Anonymous]

Wich are the most hardy freshwater plants?

vallisneria

sagittaria

echinodourus (sp)

hygrophila

rotala

ceratophyllum

riccia

lemna

azolla

cryptocoryne (some species)

aponogeton (some species)

anubias

in general, most of the commonly available fw plants are commonly available BECAUSE they're relatively easy and undemanding :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

although slow growing, I have had amazon swords in tanks for years and years.

Although they become stingy very quickly, I have anacorus (sp) to be excellent in rapidily establish new tanks.

I also liks vals. But they seem to be less effective than anacorus in establishing new tanks.

if your anacharis is getting stringy, check the Ca, and alk level, and improve your lighting

Sounds like the anacharis already did that for me. :lol:

As they get stringy the slower growing plants spread. So after a few months I don't need the anacharis.

 

[Anonymous]

beaslbob wrote:

I also liks vals. But they seem to be less effective than anacorus in establishing new tanks.

could you clarify what you mean by this statement?

 

[Anonymous]

beaslbob wrote:

I also liks vals. But they seem to be less effective than anacorus in establishing new tanks.

could you clarify what you mean by this statement?

Just an observation. when I established a new tank with vals vrs anacharis it didn't seem to do as well. The vals did not grow as fast, with few runners. Less babies from the live bearers. had to reduce feeding to prevent sloudy water. and so on.

Additionally in this thread: http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=60020 vals did not clear up the water but anacharis did finally establish the tank.

But that could be just my opinion. When I started with anachoris then the vals, eventually the anacharis became stringy but the vals did spread. So eventually the vals were there. But the anacharis seemed to really help the initial conditioning of the system(s).

 

[Anonymous]

beaslbob wrote:

I also liks vals. But they seem to be less effective than anacorus in establishing new tanks.

could you clarify what you mean by this statement?

Just an observation. when I established a new tank with vals vrs anacharis it didn't seem to do as well. The vals did not grow as fast, with few runners. Less babies from the live bearers. had to reduce feeding to prevent sloudy water. and so on.

Additionally in this thread: http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=60020 vals did not clear up the water but anacharis did finally establish the tank.

But that could be just my opinion. When I started with anachoris then the vals, eventually the anacharis became stringy but the vals did spread. So eventually the vals were there. But the anacharis seemed to really help the initial conditioning of the system(s).

what do you mean when you say 'establish' ?

 

[Anonymous]

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what do you mean when you say 'establish' ?

basically get the system to the point where it reaches some kinda steady state. Where fish and plants are supporting each other.

The anacharis seems to be faster growing and better at the initial filtering of the water than the vals.

In the case of Cal's tank, we had to overcome months of non-leiden maintenance. It finally got the the point where the system was clear, and remained that way. It took several plant additions until that happened. The addition of 4 bunches of anacharis seemed to put it over the edge. The vals helped also but did not spread very fast and cloudy water remained until the anacharis were added. but now some of the fish are eating the anacharis. LOL.

 

[Anonymous]

'steady state' ??!!!

no such thing in a fish tank, which is always dynamic, and NOT steady


rates of exchange are never constant for anything, it's all powered by negative feedback looping, as is every single environmental system on the face of the planet

where do you get your info from? :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

'steady state' ??!!!

no such thing in a fish tank, which is always dynamic, and NOT steady

Actually you are confusing steady state with static. Steady state is actually a dynamic term for those conditions where things are balanced out. If the system is "bumped" away from that steady state and then tends to return to that state it is stable. if it tends to diverge from the steady state then it is unstable. So there can be many things happening yet the system still be stable at it's steady state. Even the steady state itself can be different values.

rates of exchange are never constant for anything, it's all powered by negative feedback looping, as is every single environmental system on the face of the planet

See above. I presume there may be one or two systems that have positive feedback like at resonance or even explosive.

where do you get your info from? :lol:

Oh a few courses like stability and control, structural dynamics, random vibration, oscillator circuits and the like. I do have adegree in aerospace engineering and am currently working as an aerospace engineer.

sorry for the confusion. Didn't mean to imply aquariums were not dynamic things. But then most of the discussions on things like copper and the like on these boards do seem to reflect static thinking.

 

[hillbilly]

:lol: