breeding gold rams
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NEVER EVER do a temp drop that way for any fish-a sudden drop will more likely kick off an ich outbreak, than anything else, and a temp drop is NOT a known spawning trigger for rams
you need to be patient-ANY healthy male and female ram that get along WILL eventually spawn-you won't be able to stop 'em from doing so
you'll have better luck at slightly higher temps, btw (80-82°F)
you need to be patient-ANY healthy male and female ram that get along WILL eventually spawn-you won't be able to stop 'em from doing so
you'll have better luck at slightly higher temps, btw (80-82°F)
My rams have always spawned on their own... they spawn and eat their own eggs with no help from me what so ever :-(
But I have heard about a small temp drop being used as a trigger for bolivians. Along with a high protein diet this is what a local breeder here swears by... he gets pretty good numbers but they are not as nice as some of the bolivians I've had in the past.
I would just give them a little more time... water changes often help even with matching water temp and PH, I do 50% weekly in the tank with the rams in it.
Hope that helps
But I have heard about a small temp drop being used as a trigger for bolivians. Along with a high protein diet this is what a local breeder here swears by... he gets pretty good numbers but they are not as nice as some of the bolivians I've had in the past.
I would just give them a little more time... water changes often help even with matching water temp and PH, I do 50% weekly in the tank with the rams in it.
Hope that helps
if they keep eating the eggs-they may be either infertile, or genetically 'wrong'-many cichlids have a 6th sense (as do some birds) re: the eggs' status/viability
if they eggs are viable, and it's strictly a bad behavior issue, a piece of clear plastic over the eggs (keeping visual contact only w/the parents) may work (it's what many discus breeders do).
if they eggs are viable, and it's strictly a bad behavior issue, a piece of clear plastic over the eggs (keeping visual contact only w/the parents) may work (it's what many discus breeders do).
Oh I have no need to breed them they are in a community tank with many fish that pose a threat. My guess is they are eating them before someone else does or due to stress from the rest of the fish trying to get to them. Never did try to separate them and be a good daddy, I used to some years back but not into that anymore.
Even my ancistrus spawn regularly but only a few fry make it to adulthood in this tank. I have separated the ancistrus in the past, as long as I get to them at the right moment while daddy is still taking care of them I can remove them all in one shot, cave and all. But it's a lot more work than I can handle most times so I just leave them there...
I'm obviously not a breeder
Giancarlo
they are in a community tank with many fish that pose a threat. My guess is they are eating them before someone else does or due to stress from the rest of the fish trying to get to them. Never did try to separate them and be a good daddy, I used to some years back but not into that anymore.Even my ancistrus spawn regularly but only a few fry make it to adulthood in this tank. I have separated the ancistrus in the past, as long as I get to them at the right moment while daddy is still taking care of them I can remove them all in one shot, cave and all. But it's a lot more work than I can handle most times so I just leave them there...
I'm obviously not a breeder
Giancarlo
Horray! Horray! They finally did the deed! i had been planning on doing a water change today and when i got home from school i looked into the tank and there they were. EGGS! the mom was guarding them and fanning. i couldnt believe it. im so happy. i was going to do a water change yesterday but didnt have the time. i had the feeling that it was going to happen soon. all ive been feeding is live black worms like two times a day and frozen food at night. should i do a water change today? will that frighten them? im going to my lfs today to get some methylene blue and some more worms. since this is their first batch i wont be too sad if they eat them. i was just wanting them to help me confirm that i had a mated pair. id been contemplating for a while now whether they were or not. i do want to raise them to sellable size. i have a 29g that i was going to use for a grow out tank, but would a 20 long be effiecent? i really like the length of the tank and since rams dont need alot of height to be happy that would be a stress relief for me. a relief from those heavy water changes. id rather change 18 to 19 instead of 29. IM SOOOOOOOOO HAPPY.!
It was the x rated flick you watched last night, admit it.
Congrats though, hope you have success with the brood. I "accidently" bred Kribs, and really didn't expect any fry to survive, yet 1/3rd survived eating flake food. Didn't know anything about breeding back then either.
Congrats though, hope you have success with the brood. I "accidently" bred Kribs, and really didn't expect any fry to survive, yet 1/3rd survived eating flake food. Didn't know anything about breeding back then either.
Didn't realize I had a pair. Wasn't trying to breed. Just noticed that in a 30 gallon long, all of sudden all the fish except those two were cowering in a back corner as far away from the couple as they could get. The pair had what I would call "war paint" coloring. Not only was their belly bright red, but the entire back half and bottom quarter of them were black in coloration. One was patrolling and making occasional runs at the other fish, the other was hovering over the eggs.
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