Longest you've gone without wc ....?

[tosiek]

But who says the water needs to be pristine? The way I look at it is the water in the ocean comes out of the SKY. Last I checked there was no RO system on CLOUDS. The ocean water is far from pristine considering chemicals,oil spills, billions of animals using it as a toilet,boats going through it, the list goes on. I am actually planning on running some experiments w/ water quality effecting coral coloration and growth in the future.
IME your live rock is the most important part..that is the main stability to your ecosystem. If you have good rock loaded w/ bacteria your system will be able to sustain itself. If you have rock that has been wet for a few months you're going to have problems,plus who knows what leaches out of certain types of rock or from various people's systems. There is a lot of factors to it it's not just the water but the tap in queens is probably the best in NY state.

Evaporation is actually the most pure system of water purification, working directly at the molecular level.

Really not trying to pick a fight at all just talking about the subject. There is no way that you can compare whats going on in something as complicated as the ocean and comparing it to our tanks. Between the HUGE difference in ratio's per gallon for anything you could possibly try to correspond to our tanks. Any argument aside from comparing trace/mineral levels and stability is pointless. In comparison the major oil spill wasn't even a drop in the bucket as far as affecting the ocean as a whole when you look at the ratio's although it was locally devastating. Meanwhile a little soap or oil on your hand when your playing in your 200g tank can have a big impact on the system as a whole. Comparatively trace element depletion, waste management, ect all are balanced within the ocean itself while we are doing massive water changes, using a ton of mechanical filtration and using bacteria and carbon dosing to balance our small systems. One coral reef compared to the ocean water that makes it thrive is like having a 20g tank running on a very large lakes worth of sump area.

Also, even though you have established rock, that rock does not take care of NO3 and it does not add in trace elements, ect back into your tank that are used up. If it did we would not have such complicated systems and the issue with water changes would be a non issue.

I was looking for pics of your tank Trigger and can't find any. Post up some pics.

 

[Cris007]

Who makes them for the trace elements? What are the proper levels?

Red Sea Pro, Salifert, and Elos make test kits for each major and minor trace elements.

 

[TRIGGERMAN]

Evaporation is actually the most pure system of water purification, working directly at the molecular level.

Really not trying to pick a fight at all just talking about the subject. There is no way that you can compare whats going on in something as complicated as the ocean and comparing it to our tanks. Between the HUGE difference in ratio's per gallon for anything you could possibly try to correspond to our tanks. Any argument aside from comparing trace/mineral levels and stability is pointless. In comparison the major oil spill wasn't even a drop in the bucket as far as affecting the ocean as a whole when you look at the ratio's although it was locally devastating. Meanwhile a little soap or oil on your hand when your playing in your 200g tank can have a big impact on the system as a whole. Comparatively trace element depletion, waste management, ect all are balanced within the ocean itself while we are doing massive water changes, using a ton of mechanical filtration and using bacteria and carbon dosing to balance our small systems. One coral reef compared to the ocean water that makes it thrive is like having a 20g tank running on a very large lakes worth of sump area.

Also, even though you have established rock, that rock does not take care of NO3 and it does not add in trace elements, ect back into your tank that are used up. If it did we would not have such complicated systems and the issue with water changes would be a non issue.

I was looking for pics of your tank Trigger and can't find any. Post up some pics.

That's fine I'm not taking offense I'm just stating my experiences. I'm extremely busy with work the next few days but I will get some pics up. There is plenty of members here who can attest to the quality of my corals and overall health of my tank. It's funny because people come over and usually the first thing they say is "Wow your tank looks so good, what do you dose?" When I reply "nothing" they look at me like I have 6 heads. I have dabbled w/ vitamin c dosing here and there over the last few years, I also tried aquavitro fuel for a little bit about a year ago and once in a while I might throw a squirt of a random bottle in my tank just for the hell of it but there is no set dosing regimen I don't dose anything every day. I never really noticed any huge difference when I used any of those things so I kinda just let the tank run it's course.

 

[xxxAngeloxxx]

That's fine I'm not taking offense I'm just stating my experiences. I'm extremely busy with work the next few days but I will get some pics up. There is plenty of members here who can attest to the quality of my corals and overall health of my tank. It's funny because people come over and usually the first thing they say is "Wow your tank looks so good, what do you dose?" When I reply "nothing" they look at me like I have 6 heads. I have dabbled w/ vitamin c dosing here and there over the last few years, I also tried aquavitro fuel for a little bit about a year ago and once in a while I might throw a squirt of a random bottle in my tank just for the hell of it but there is no set dosing regimen I don't dose anything every day. I never really noticed any huge difference when I used any of those things so I kinda just let the tank run it's course.

1+ I'm heading your way haven't dose nothing in 6 months. Still everything is growing well.

 

[rrudo74901]

After 4 months I bit the bullet and did a 25% WC today.
Let's see how the corals respond.

 

[shmibly]

5 days lol

 

[nyprdr]

I met someone who hasn't done a water change in about 2 years and his tank is flourishing.. he just does some dosing and doesnt even do it on a schedule.. just random dosing