My coral propogation tank (150lbs of live rock + 15 species of hard and soft corals) seems to have a multitude of critters lining the tank walls (I think they're feeding off small microfauna). I have never noticed these in the main tanks I've had because there are fish in them and other critters further up the foodchain. They are like 1 - 2 mm whitish bugs, any ideas?
Pods, critters, what are they?
- Thread starter Tony Quinn
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Tony, if you can afford to stock a 300 gallon tank full of SPS and half a million tangs, then you really should have invested in a book first. Your questions are constantly based around an elementry level which most people seem to grasp with both hands before they would even consider a purchase a quater of your proportions. Besides that you dont even ask before, its allways "i have been doing". As far as your "propogation tank" is concerned, i didn't think that reclaimed corals from your living room floor counted as propagated. But hey, your not fooling anyone but yourself.
Get a book for God's sake, you have a huge ammount of responsibility on your hands and basically very little knowlege, and a severe lack of common sence to back it up. Maybe the best answer for you, as you appear to be so affluent is to get someone else to look after your investment. Then you can sit there slack jawed gawping at the "pretty fishes" for as long as your heart desires, and better still at least nothing will die.
Get a book for God's sake, you have a huge ammount of responsibility on your hands and basically very little knowlege, and a severe lack of common sence to back it up. Maybe the best answer for you, as you appear to be so affluent is to get someone else to look after your investment. Then you can sit there slack jawed gawping at the "pretty fishes" for as long as your heart desires, and better still at least nothing will die.
Thanks Mandarinfish, yeh! sorry about the response to Mouse, but a'holes with an arrogant streak wind me up and having spent most of my life boxing and now full contact kick boxing I tend to remedy things with my fists rather than other means! My attitude is if you don't want to answer constructively, don't post anything at all. I've just referred to about 50% of my marine books and I can find absolutely nothing on these critters, I'd like Shrew, I mean mouse to point out relative material in his library on micro inverts! My main concern was overpopulation and potential harm to the other inhabitants, the corals are growing beautifully
Tony, how thick was the glass on your tank again?
Ive had pods in marine aquariums stocked only with tufa rock. For someone who's bought so much LR, shouldn't you have looked into the benefits of it. It's as equally as important as knowing about Aptasia, and im sure you know about them, right.
If you had been aware of any of the tiny bug's and things that can exist in the sytems then how far did you expect to get with a description like.
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so why do you expect me to beleave you when you say.
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Especially....
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Implying that these 2-3mm whitish bugs are somehow uniqe to this prop tank, differing to the 2-3mm whitish bugs that you allready know about. Having been in the buisness of recently purchaseing and installing one great mutha of a reef system.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr> 2 Picasso Triggers
1 Pinktail Trigger
1 Black spot angel
1 Flame Angel
1 Lemon Peel Angel
1 Coral Beauty
1 6" Naso Tang (lipstick)
2 Regal Tangs (1 is 8")
2 Yellow Tangs
1 Purple Yellow tailed tang
1 Sohal Tang
1 Clown Tang
1 Coral Hawkfish
1 Marroon Anenome fish
1 Neon damsels (5")
5 blue/yellow damsels
4 green Chromis
1 Blue devil damsel
1 Copperband
1 Bluestreak cleaner wrasse (3 years old for all you anti cleaner wrasse folks out there)
approx in excess of 100 other inverts including hard & soft corals including home propogated acropora, ritteri anenome, carpet anenome growing daily from 8" to nearly 2 foot in less than a year
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The 300G stock list, and this was all kept behind 10mm glass. And it blew up, inevitable in my opinion. And i dont think it could have lasted that long before it happend, a year and i'd be impressed.
Now there must have been something doing a real number on your pods for them to have been completely invisible in a system that large. Especially with regular feedings. And there are no obligate pod feeders among them.
Basically Tony i blew off because i dont like your attitude. You can go about propagating if you like, but i think you may have heard someone mentinon pods while you picked up the various techniqes. Or were you really trying to get a respectable answer from a description like
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Flame me if im wrong here
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And besides if you will check the stock list above you will notice that there has been the addition of 1 powder blue.
This was taken from a later post argueing over the conditions suitable for tangs. Assuming this is an updated version, and this is an addition from the stock list above. I would say thats a wise move to go chuck that in there last of all. And i bet you quarantined it, because im sure you wouldn't want all those fish to get ICK.
Please yourself Tony, i wont be talking to you again.
Ive had pods in marine aquariums stocked only with tufa rock. For someone who's bought so much LR, shouldn't you have looked into the benefits of it. It's as equally as important as knowing about Aptasia, and im sure you know about them, right.
If you had been aware of any of the tiny bug's and things that can exist in the sytems then how far did you expect to get with a description like.
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so why do you expect me to beleave you when you say.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
Especially....
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
Implying that these 2-3mm whitish bugs are somehow uniqe to this prop tank, differing to the 2-3mm whitish bugs that you allready know about. Having been in the buisness of recently purchaseing and installing one great mutha of a reef system.
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr> 2 Picasso Triggers
1 Pinktail Trigger
1 Black spot angel
1 Flame Angel
1 Lemon Peel Angel
1 Coral Beauty
1 6" Naso Tang (lipstick)
2 Regal Tangs (1 is 8")
2 Yellow Tangs
1 Purple Yellow tailed tang
1 Sohal Tang
1 Clown Tang
1 Coral Hawkfish
1 Marroon Anenome fish
1 Neon damsels (5")
5 blue/yellow damsels
4 green Chromis
1 Blue devil damsel
1 Copperband
1 Bluestreak cleaner wrasse (3 years old for all you anti cleaner wrasse folks out there)
approx in excess of 100 other inverts including hard & soft corals including home propogated acropora, ritteri anenome, carpet anenome growing daily from 8" to nearly 2 foot in less than a year
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The 300G stock list, and this was all kept behind 10mm glass. And it blew up, inevitable in my opinion. And i dont think it could have lasted that long before it happend, a year and i'd be impressed.
Now there must have been something doing a real number on your pods for them to have been completely invisible in a system that large. Especially with regular feedings. And there are no obligate pod feeders among them.
Basically Tony i blew off because i dont like your attitude. You can go about propagating if you like, but i think you may have heard someone mentinon pods while you picked up the various techniqes. Or were you really trying to get a respectable answer from a description like
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
Flame me if im wrong here
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote
And besides if you will check the stock list above you will notice that there has been the addition of 1 powder blue.
This was taken from a later post argueing over the conditions suitable for tangs. Assuming this is an updated version, and this is an addition from the stock list above. I would say thats a wise move to go chuck that in there last of all. And i bet you quarantined it, because im sure you wouldn't want all those fish to get ICK.
Please yourself Tony, i wont be talking to you again.
As far as a referance how about TRA #1 page 527, and 278 possibly amphipod? Copepod? I am sure i could come up with more references in my other books.
I dont know what happened but why cant we all just stick to answering the ?'s In any case can you give a better disc. of the "bugs".
I dont know what happened but why cant we all just stick to answering the ?'s In any case can you give a better disc. of the "bugs".
Tony,
Sorry about the beating you endured here but I think a fine Welcome to Reefs.Org must have been in the cards for you.
I think somebody pissed in his tea or he has gotten mad cow disease from his yorkshire pudding.
Join the club and chalk it up to experience or something and dont sweat the small stuff.
Sorry about the beating you endured here but I think a fine Welcome to Reefs.Org must have been in the cards for you.
I think somebody pissed in his tea or he has gotten mad cow disease from his yorkshire pudding.
Join the club and chalk it up to experience or something and dont sweat the small stuff.
I'm with Jawbone.
Welcome.
If someone takes too much offense to what you post, they should not respond to you.
Things can get heated here like everywhere else, but let's chill and not get into flaming, Flaming Moe's.
I am a rank-arse-amateur, newbie myself. I have been curious about the bugs on my glass since I have deisgned my tank for the primary puropse of breeding Madarin Dragonets. I *need* to be a 'pod farmer.
That said, I hope everyone can remain calm and remains a responsible reefer and board member.
Welcome.
If someone takes too much offense to what you post, they should not respond to you.
Things can get heated here like everywhere else, but let's chill and not get into flaming, Flaming Moe's.
I am a rank-arse-amateur, newbie myself. I have been curious about the bugs on my glass since I have deisgned my tank for the primary puropse of breeding Madarin Dragonets. I *need* to be a 'pod farmer.
That said, I hope everyone can remain calm and remains a responsible reefer and board member.
Mandarin,
You never answered a question I had about the Valley
Did you work at T Bros or ??? and Where in spokane should I go...
I have been going to the store in the Tri-Cities on Vista way but they have so much aptasia its scary. The guy that seems to run the Aqua area seems to be knowledgable but does not feel that those anenomes need controlling.
Although I did see a new hire there who looked gung-ho and wanted to turn everything around.
You never answered a question I had about the Valley
Did you work at T Bros or ??? and Where in spokane should I go...
I have been going to the store in the Tri-Cities on Vista way but they have so much aptasia its scary. The guy that seems to run the Aqua area seems to be knowledgable but does not feel that those anenomes need controlling.
Although I did see a new hire there who looked gung-ho and wanted to turn everything around.
Hey Mouse lucky your not within punching distance, a bit tetchy are we. These corals are for your information not reclaimed from the destroyed tank, they were infact being propagated from frags!. Secondly, I have kept fish in excess of 10 years, successfully bred discus, and still do. My question related to small creatures that I hadn't seen or read about! I have a library of books in which I have not found the specimens I have seen in this tank. So before you rant off and act the arse, just think! I often see posts on the various message boards which ask what may seem like a basic question to one person, but not to another so GFU!
Sorry Jawbone...
I worked at Tomato Bros., and had a friend with a salwater tropical tank (not sure about corals - he had taken the tank down by the time I met him) who lived in Pullman. Not sure where he got his fish.
Not sure where to get fish locally; I'd say it might even be worth the drive to hit Seattle and maybe Portland.
Othwerwise, mail order. I can't imagine you having a decent LFS in the Palouse, much less valley.
I was buying awesome, very mature (*years* in tanks) live rock from a woman in SF for $1.50 a pound. I couldn't afford NOT to buy it. I came back and got the pieces down to the ones with aiptasia and left those alone, even at that price.
I've never had aiptasia. I'd like to keep it that way.
I worked at Tomato Bros., and had a friend with a salwater tropical tank (not sure about corals - he had taken the tank down by the time I met him) who lived in Pullman. Not sure where he got his fish.
Not sure where to get fish locally; I'd say it might even be worth the drive to hit Seattle and maybe Portland.
Othwerwise, mail order. I can't imagine you having a decent LFS in the Palouse, much less valley.
I was buying awesome, very mature (*years* in tanks) live rock from a woman in SF for $1.50 a pound. I couldn't afford NOT to buy it. I came back and got the pieces down to the ones with aiptasia and left those alone, even at that price.
I've never had aiptasia. I'd like to keep it that way.
WOW!!!!!!! i think i must jump in here uninvited to give my opinion. MOUSE if this is how you treat your fellow reefers on honest questions they have BE DAMN SURE YOU DON'T EVER REPLY TO ONE OF MY POST!!!!!!!! That was totally uncalled for. It is a lot easir to type it than to say it. I have lost all respect for you and will never pay any attetion to you in the future.
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Have a look for yourself, i never said i was pro. I just have far too many issues with past threads to let this go. Check them out for yourself, tap in Tony's member number and have a read. The tang Myths, Tang myths you guys are unreal, and the subsiquent thread are pretty depictive. If you would like to bring up any of the points i raised with a clear explanation then i will remove it.
Lest see some photos of your tanks.
Have a look for yourself, i never said i was pro. I just have far too many issues with past threads to let this go. Check them out for yourself, tap in Tony's member number and have a read. The tang Myths, Tang myths you guys are unreal, and the subsiquent thread are pretty depictive. If you would like to bring up any of the points i raised with a clear explanation then i will remove it.
Lest see some photos of your tanks.
Mouse,I wonder what is it like in your world, but only until I hang up my modem.
Are you a librarian or something? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Why don't you start your own website and charge people?
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Are you a librarian or something? You must have a lot of time on your hands. Why don't you start your own website and charge people?
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mouse:
<strong>Tony, if you can afford to stock a 300 gallon tank full of SPS and half a million tangs, then you really should have invested in a book first. Your questions are constantly based around an elementry level which most people seem to grasp with both hands before they would even consider a purchase a quater of your proportions. Besides that you dont even ask before, its allways "i have been doing". As far as your "propogation tank" is concerned, i didn't think that reclaimed corals from your living room floor counted as propagated. But hey, your not fooling anyone but yourself.
Get a book for God's sake, you have a huge ammount of responsibility on your hands and basically very little knowlege, and a severe lack of common sence to back it up. Maybe the best answer for you, as you appear to be so affluent is to get someone else to look after your investment. Then you can sit there slack jawed gawping at the "pretty fishes" for as long as your heart desires, and better still at least nothing will die.
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Get bent A hole. I'll bet your a real pro
<strong>Tony, if you can afford to stock a 300 gallon tank full of SPS and half a million tangs, then you really should have invested in a book first. Your questions are constantly based around an elementry level which most people seem to grasp with both hands before they would even consider a purchase a quater of your proportions. Besides that you dont even ask before, its allways "i have been doing". As far as your "propogation tank" is concerned, i didn't think that reclaimed corals from your living room floor counted as propagated. But hey, your not fooling anyone but yourself.
Get a book for God's sake, you have a huge ammount of responsibility on your hands and basically very little knowlege, and a severe lack of common sence to back it up. Maybe the best answer for you, as you appear to be so affluent is to get someone else to look after your investment. Then you can sit there slack jawed gawping at the "pretty fishes" for as long as your heart desires, and better still at least nothing will die.
Get bent A hole. I'll bet your a real pro
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