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kirtis

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hey seems like everything has died since i left , anyway, i am talking to this guy about tufa rock and he will sell me some for $1 a pound, is this a good price for tufa or can i get some somwhere else cheaper,,,,,, and please stick to the subject of this thread, if you want to say anything else or ask me something else, start a new thread


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MIKE NY1

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Hey Kirtis, a $1 lb. is a good price because tufa is very light, so you should be able to get alot for your money.

Sorry I can't resist...what do you mean everything died?
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Hey Kirtis, a $1 lb. is a good price because tufa is very light, so you should be able to get alot for your money.

I concur. It is more than that at my LFS.

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This is your first and last warning, folks...... Any non-constructive replies will get the poster banned for a week.
 

kirtis

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lol by me saying everything died since i left i mean , the board is not nearly as active and responsive as it used to be with me being here
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Kirtis is back! Yeah!

Het thats my line ernie
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Someone please explain what tufa rock is ?

I need something to attach mushroom frags to other than live rock and coral skeletons. Would tufa rock work ?

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fishfarmer

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Kirtis, good price.

Rich-n-poor,

Tufa would work, you could easily carve little nooks for the 'shrooms to sit in if you want. It is a very porous calcium carbonate I believe. I have several pieces of it as base in my tank, lots of life has attached to it. It can be pricey, especially if you are buying precarved pieces. I have also used what is known as lace rock for propagating, more dense than tufa and a different composition.
 

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Why not buy 45lbs of Fiji rock delivered to your door for $149 instead? not only will it look nicer but will provide a bunch of cool hitchhikers.

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Kirtis, Welcome back!

YOu do understand that if you have the rock shipped, You will have to cycle it before you put it in your tank, Right?

No matter what you buy, Fiji or tuffa, If you buy it 'uncured' it will have to cycle. And it is best NOT to have other animals in the tank while this is happening. YOur ammonia and nitrites and nitrates will all SKYROCKET in your tank. Unless you have really hardy fish (like damsels) They most likely will die before the end of the cycle.

Just my 2 Cents

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All the tufa I have come across was chunks of dried rock sitting for months on the shelf at a LFS. If that is what is being added to the tank, I don't think it'll cause any cycle problems.

But I can see that if the tufa was in somebody's tank and has life growing on it, it could cause some problems after shipping.

I don't know what you're getting, Kirtis; either chunks of rock that have been dried for years or "homemade live rock" - tufa that has been in a reef tank for a while growing life.
Dry tufa - just needs a rinse.
"Live" tufa, will need to go through a cycle, and could cause you some headaches.
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Hi guys,

Tufa is a mineral deposit. It forms only under water and can be EXTREMELY porous and light. It is mainly comprised of calcium carbonate, good stuff for a reef tank. It's soft enough to be carved easily.

Any rock that has previously had life on it could have dead, dried out organic material on it. If this is the case it will cause a cycling event and have to be "cured". If tufa comes straight from a quarry though, then likely no cycling will take place.

I was/am looking for LARGE pieces of tufa for my new tank, and have been dealing with a company called Tufaworks. Dan Cox there has become interested in his product being used in the aquarium industry - he has not until recently even known his product could be used for this. He's the one (I think) selling it for $1/lb. If you're looking for tufa, I think his email address is [email protected] . Great guy to deal with.

I personally think tufa is great when mixed with a little live rock for biodiversity. I have quite a bit in my tank and after a few months you can't distinguish it from the live rock. Lot of little critters moved in right away and it grows coraline very well.

Heres some before and after pics:

before (just added to the tank):
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and about 3 months later (the coral here is sitting in a hole carved in the tufa):
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i just sold some one on this board 85 lbs for 40 dollars,and they came and picked it up,,,when i baught it i thaught ill just put the tuffa on the bottom and pile live rock on top and around it ,and the tuffa will become live rock,well it didnt go down like that,,,live rock is live rock,and will usualy fade and comeback,etc,the tuffa in my tank has been there for 1 1/2 years and only has a couple of mushroom sprouts comming off,,,,,i was way pleased with my live rock purchase from marine depot and am ready to do it again and yank the rest of my tuffa out,,,as i like the look of live rock,,,granted my tank has been turbulant untill the last few months with a change from cc to dsb,,addition of sump,chiller,hallides/pc,getting rid of mech filt,but my on line purchase of live rock has been my best foot forward ,,,tuffa takes forever in my view to start any growth,,,if i did it again i would just order all live uncured fiji from marine depot
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Rich-n-poor

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I think my LFS carries it, but calls it by another name thanks for the pics.

This may be just the answer for a base for shrooms and zoopolyups I.ve been propogating
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Rich,
Lace rock is a terrestrial rock, not exactly sure what it is, doesn't look like it has any metals. It is a grey stone that should have some nooks and crannies and possibly a quartz or silica crystal or two. I've seen lace rock in the wild when I was in upstate NY mining for herkimer diamonds. The silica based crystals would form inside the rock.

My LFS carries lace rock for about $1.50/lb.

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ravenmore

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my tufa started sprouting all kinds of stuff right off the bat. Within a few months you couldn't tell it from the marshall and manono island live rock I had in the tank.

Specifically, I'm talking coraline algae, various pods, vermitid snails, spaghetti worms, small white brittle stars, and bristle worms.

I didn't bury mine inside the reef, I put it right on top.

In my experience it was one of the best/cheapest things I put in my reef. I sold a couple of pieces that had been "aquacultured" in my tank as live rock back to my lfs for $30. They sold me the original "dry" pieces for ~$5.
 

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