hey brother i here you i just baught csl pc's at my lfs and they had both types the new and the old,,,,the new were in plain brown boxes and the older ones were in color boxes with wavelenth info and csl writing on it i baught the old ones because they looked much better,,i am estatic with there performance,,,,,,,,,,by the way i have been wondering, the lfs guy said that jbj is from germany,why do there bulbs say made in china,,,