I ordered from etropicals and FFexpress about 2.5 to 3 weeks ago. Spent quite a bit at FF but gotta say it was and is worth it. Great customer service, outstanding corals, and fish (had a fish die, and a shrimp but they gave no hesitation for a replacement and didnt even need me to send it back!!!). Etropicals on the other hand isn't bad but in my opinion needs some work if they want to grow. I ordered a clean up crew and my blue legs were so so so so tiny, 2 shrimp were dead on arrival, I had ordered 2 royal urchins and didnt find out they were out of stock until the order came (one of the main reasons I ordered from them). I guess it is partly my fault. I didn't complain to etropicals because the quality of the product reflected what I thought there attitude would be, but I could have been wrong (should have tried, oh well). I do still have faith in them, well I might... I placed an order over the weekend to arrive tomorrow. Again tried to get the urchins that said they were in stock and guess what. Went on their web page today and now they are out of stock. So either I bought the last of them or they just aren't coming. Anybody ever had experiences with them? Good or bad...hopefully good to get my hopes up.