WWW.SEAHORSE.ORG mods quiting?

[Anonymous]

:lol: still laughing, cause it's done, over, kaput, we did as we pleased the way we wanted to do it, and whatever you may or may not say, it was our choice. If ya don't like it, lump it! Sour grapes, spam, whatever you want to call it, it's what we wanted to do. When you pull a coup, you can do it whatever way you like

I still think the way you guys went about it was sleazy. And your glee at doing it in the way you did it makes me want to distance myself from you.
I hope you will just lump it when the same kind of thing is done to you.

Righty, you seem to be able to grasp that "the math looks odd", why not explore that angle a little more thoroughly. You'll find all your answers there. See above.

I have expored it at least as much as I have expored anything on this issue. Something made you guys leave. But the way you guys handled it make soils your credibility. You lied to her and tried to screw her and appear to take joy from those actions- I would be very waryabout doing business with you.
And also, having lots of people agee with you doesn't make you right.

 

[Anonymous]

-LOL, how do you like them apples Righty :lol: ?
Steve

Mmmmm...apples...mmmmmm
:mrgreen:

 

[Anemone]

As for icky, hehe good word, I don't feel compelled to go into more details about the personal stuff that went on "behind the scenes", as I don't really feel it's my place. I wasn't personally involved in those areas, so I may not be able to present you will all the facts. It was sufficient to me that trusted friends felt strongly enough to make this move, and when they asked me to come along, I stuck by them. I believe you can ask the administrators to email you those details, if you are interested in delving further.

Um, does this mean that you are passing on information you heard from your friends as to what occurred? I've been watching this thread with interest, and you originally seemed to present yourself as a participant with first-hand knowledge. Now, it seems you are taking this on faith from "trusted friends." I don't have a problem with this at all, I just want to know the reliability of the information being presented.

Kevin

 

[Anemone]

Sydney Seahorse wrote:

still laughing, cause it's done, over, kaput, we did as we pleased the way we wanted to do it, and whatever you may or may not say, it was our choice. If ya don't like it, lump it! Sour grapes, spam, whatever you want to call it, it's what we wanted to do. When you pull a coup, you can do it whatever way you like

:roll: leaving over differences/disagreements is one thing, a 'coup' is quite something else :wink:

just a further illustration of extremely infantile mentality

Vitz,

I agree with you 100% here. Any likelihood that I would visit this new site just went down the tubes.

Sydney Seahorse wrote:

As for icky, hehe good word, I don't feel compelled to go into more details about the personal stuff that went on "behind the scenes", as I don't really feel it's my place. I wasn't personally involved in those areas, so I may not be able to present you will all the facts. It was sufficient to me that trusted friends felt strongly enough to make this move, and when they asked me to come along, I stuck by them. I believe you can ask the administrators to email you those details, if you are interested in delving further

so you just joined a 'coup' w/out even checking the facts? what a good little nazi... :roll:

That's a little over the top and unnecessary. I feel that calling people "nazis" should be reserved for more serious affairs, and name-calling in general only weakens one's argument.

FWIW,
Kevin

 

[jamesw]

Hi guys,

Just speaking as a passionate "observer" it appears to me that the people who set up the new website are conducting themselves in a very immature and childish manner.

When you leave a job, or start a new company, as a professional, there is a pretty strict "code of conduct" that you follow. No matter how much you hate or don't like your previous employer, you left merely "to pursue other interests."

You don't steal the client list, contact all of your old clients and give them your new business address. You know why? It's unprofessional, and not to mention it's ILLEGAL.

Every word of disparragement might make you feel a little bit better, but each of those words only makes you look petty.

FWIW, as the administrator of this site, I get all of the email bounces to *@reefs.org (or at least I used to until Microchip took that over, thank goodness!). What that means is that if someone addresses an email to [email protected] then I would get it.

This is how Karen found out that her moderators were "planning a coup." Someone made a boo-boo and she found out - and you know what? She found out about this MONTHS AGO.

I think it speaks volumes for her character that she tried to work things out and didn't kick all of the backstabbers out when she learned the truth.

This post is only my personal opinion as a concerned individual. It does not reflect the "policy" of reefs.org or the admins at all.

And if anyone thinks that "owning" a website is as easy and cheap as paying $20 per month and registering a domain - I've got some beach-front property for sale in Florida.

Cheers
James Wiseman

 

[Anemone]

Hi guys,

And if anyone thinks that "owning" a website is as easy and cheap as paying $20 per month and registering a domain - I've got some beach-front property for sale in Florida.

James,

Excellent post. And you brought up a point I glossed over. With the attitude displayed, as well as the general lack of knowledge about what owning/running a website is all about, do you think we're being played by a troll?

Kevin

 

[Minh Nguyen]

When you make appearance of everything is honky dory good while secretly steal everything is backstabbing. Your posts just indicate to me that you all deceived Karen and then steal all the files and pull the rug out from under her.
You are helping your friends stabbing somebody in the back, then you jumping up and down with joy after you finished and don't even understand the reason and the motive behind it. That speaks volumes regarding your character.
I don’t keep seahorse, but just reading all this put a sour taste in my mouth regarding your new site. I wanted to say something much stronger but edited my post and will just leave this as it is now.
Minh Nguyen

 

[Anonymous]

James,

You rock.

The fact that you, as a mod, chime in on potentially sensitive issues with your personal opinion, strengthens my desire to stay and support and recommend r.o. Mostly fair minded people who have no worries about expressing themselves - this is the kind of place I want to hang.

Thanks for all the work.

RR

 

[Sydney Seahorse]

The Nazi post was totally uncalled-for, and I am hereby demanding a public apology.

Onto other matters - I don't know what a troll is, I did see one in the Harry Potter movie once though. I've been a member here for some time, but rarely have much input as my interest & knowledge is in syngnathid. I like to read up on corals though, one day I might get up the courage to keep them! Interesting animals, aren't they.

Kevin - as a moderator, I was naturally involved in the departure. About 2 days before it actually happened, I was sent an email asking for my participation. Also as a moderator, I was naturally privy to the behind-the-scenes stuff in Admin forums etc (anyone who is a mod would know the sort of stuff I mean - much goes on in these places without members being subjected to the stuff). However, I was not personally involved in those disputes. I like to keep out of that sort of thing! My emails were not intercepted as I used my pesonal mail server rather than the org one. And because I had been told, by my trusted friends, along the way, for many months, what was happening to them, I naturally made my decision to join them rather than remain behind.

James, if Karen knew about this months ago, why is she so shocked that it happened? From what I am reading on the old board, she seems totally at a loss that this was on the cards. Odd stuff for someone who knew this was going on. Re. your comment about the email bouncing - the emails did not "bounce", they were part of a discussion amngst two moderators using their org email addies. They had both used these addresses in the past with no apparent problems.

I am aware you are a friend of Karen's, and like most friends you are choosing to stand by her. I stand by my friends as well. For those who remember the days of yore, seahorse.org was started with a very similar manouver, and the past was left behind to move forward.

Discuss amongst yourselves & write me a 2000 word essay on the term "friendship" I'm going to watch the cricket.[/i]

 

[Sydney Seahorse]

oops! this board is playing silly buggers

 

[Sydney Seahorse]

third time lucky!

 

[Anonymous]

The Nazi post was totally uncalled-for, and I am hereby demanding a public apology.

:roll: Ummm, I believe the phrase was 'leave it or lump it'.

 

[Minh Nguyen]

...... the emails did not "bounce", they were part of a discussion amngst two moderators using their org email addies. They had both used these addresses in the past with no apparent problems.......[/i]

Sydney Seahorse,
What James means is that all the emails with one of the address involved, sender or receiver, as '*@seahorse.org' got a c/c (carbon copy) send to the administrator of seahorse.org automatically (that's Karen)
I guess you did not know that. Best keep this in mind when you do plan any secret activity in the future.
Minh Nguyen

 

[Anonymous]

Sydney Seahorse wrote:

The Nazi post was totally uncalled-for, and I am hereby demanding a public apology.

you're in no position to make any demand from me whatsoever.

in fact i will further expound and clarify my position to you just so it's perfectly clear that you understand exactly what a low opinion i have of you-you silly little trolling troglodyte.

in my opinion, and from what i know of my study if typical nazi behavior, one of the main characteristics of the third reich was the followers of the socialist party-heretofore referred to as 'nazi's' to engage in public backstabbing on the say so of another individual they trusted-w/out even excersizing the tiniest amount of mental fortitude to examine the correctness of the assertions

you-by your own admission on this forum did exactly that-ergo you're a nazi :wink:

if it walks like a nazi, and talks like a nazi, then it's a nazi :wink:

more irreprehensible is the fact that you actually are proud of, and brag about that behavior.

this is my own personal opinion and in no way reflects the opinion, of any one else on this board, or the reefs.org organization.

you don't like my opinion of you being a silly little infantile troglodytic nazi?

tough-as you said 'leave it or lump it'

troll

 

[Anonymous]

an addendum:

i am going to contact karen and profoundly urge her to pursue any and all legal recourse she may have available to enforce any copyrights, etc. she may have to any, or all of the material on your site.

hopefully-your posts here will help her case.

now go play in your new little sandbox :wink:

and a last piece of advice-never start what you aren't absolutely sure you can finish.

 

[Anemone]

Vitz,

I still think the "nazi" comment was beyond the pale - Nazi's are murderers, this person is just a teenager without moral fortitude.

However, that being said, somehow I knew a "demand" for an apology would result in this :roll:

Kevin

PS - And a "moderator" who doesn't know what a troll is? Oh puleese....

 

[Anonymous]

Anemone:

with all due respect:

imo-my intention is not to use nazi as a reference to murderer.rather as one who thinks and acts a certain way-backstabbing, bragging about performing a coup, and causing others public distress because his associates tell him it's the thing to do.

for the record-having a religious jewish education, and beind a dual national(american/israeli) i assure you i know very well what a strong term the word 'nazi' is. :wink:

i also assure you that i feel very strongly about this issue, and the (to me)-what appears to be the despicable behavior of the self professed troglodyte infantile nazi.

the leap from the pride in this behavior and becoming a 'real' nazi is smaller than you may think-and i will villify anyone engaging in this type of behavior vociferously, and swiftly-whenever i come across it.

sorry if YOU are offended , but my opinion still stands.

if Sydney Seahorse(hmmm-interesting initials :wink: ) is even thinking of playing the offended one for bragging about nazi like behavior-he should never have posted publicly about his actions.period.

if he can't take the heat-let him leave the kitchen

 

[Anonymous]

it is after all, my duty-as a member of 'the knights of freedom and liberty'
:wink:

 

[jamesw]

OK, it looks like this post has fallen into the trenches. I'm going to close the post, because frankly, this board has nothing to do with "who called who what."

And Minh, about the email, that's not what I meant. I don't think a site admin can intercept private emails. What I mean is that as an admin, you get email BOUNCES - in other words, emails with a non-existant email address. For example, if you meant to send me an email at [email protected] but you posted it to [email protected], it would bounce and go to the administrator instead.


Okey doke, post Closed.

Cheers
James