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P.E.Meredith

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In my local Aquatic shop they have Bumble bee snails for sale. When I asked if they are as useful as Astrea turbo's they were not sure !

Any info. on these would be helpful.

Also, just out of curiosity, how do prices for livestock in the USA compare to the UK?

To compare, turbo snails average about £2.50 (Pounds) each and a Yellow
Tang £25-£40 depending on size

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SPC

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In my local Aquatic shop they have Bumble bee snails for sale. When I asked if they are as useful as Astrea turbo's they were not sure !

-My understanding is that these snails are not algae eaters but instead pray upon the small worms and bugs in our tanks. They sure are pretty thiough :) .
Steve
 

Jeff Hood

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I have a bunch of these in my 500 and they seem to be scavengers and darn good at it. I have not seen them eating worms and pods but I guess it is possible. I don't know how they would immobilize one though. these snails move very slow and my pods are quick little suckers.
I have seen a snail die of natural causes and these things home in on the dead animal and clean the shell out completly. I also see them on my rock where I tie Seaweed selects and so they seem to eat some algae. Maybe they are just attracted to my Selcon though.

I do have a mandarin and it is VERY fat. I can send pics of the mandarin. Huge gut!

I consider these snails to be equal to small hermits in function. Just clean up the crap.

Jeff
 

dizzy

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I have the bumble bee snails in several tanks and my observations are similar to those of Jeff Hood. They appear to do more good than harm and they are attractive. They are also hardy, inexpensive, and easy to remove if you suspect a problem.

MG
 
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The story seems to be: Ron Shimek & his readers say they're dangerous, everybody who actually has them says they're fine (I read a few other threads re this at RC)... Trouble is, it's hard to determine if they're actually "fine" - that is, is your tank doing well because of or in spite of the presence of these snails.

Well the funny thing is, I had just received 5 of these snails from FFExpress this morning, but this thread scared me away from putting them in my tank.
 

SPC

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I have no experience with them because I read the comments that I posted from Dr Ron before I purchased any. Do you disagree with Dr Ron's comments about these snails dizzy? You do sell them don't you :wink: ?
Steve
 

dizzy

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spc,

I haven't read Dr. Ron's comments. I just know that I have them in about six different tanks and I have not noticed any problems. It is possible that they are doing something I'm unaware of. Yes we do sell them and I have never received any negative feedback from customers. I do have them in at least two seventy five gallon tanks that also have mandarins. If they are depleteing the worm and pod populations it is not very obvious to me.

Mitch
 

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I received a few of these snails from another reefer 6-7 months ago. When I first introduced them to my reef, I saw one of the snails feasting on a bristle worm. IMO my reef is doing well in spite of the snails.
 

brandon4291

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had purchased 8 bumblebee snails and put them in my reef aquarium before I'd heard of Dr. Shimek's articles. By then, I had only observed the snails moving slowly across the substrate and the rocks-nothing harmful. Ive seen them creep slowly towards a coral or another LR structure, and then turn away from it when they bump into it to continue elsewhere. I keep a watchful eye on things that like to crawl on my corals and cause them to withdraw--thats a main reason why I dont like blue legged hermits in small reefs. IMO you'd have to have a sickly or dying worm or pod before they would be caught by these slow snails.

However, sometimes my zoanthid colonies will close up for a few days. if I ever find a link between this activity and the beautiful snails they are goners. the snails.

It is possible that these snails are consuming smaller life forms that would otherwise be found on the LR surface, maybe some of the ultra-tiny sessile organisms... but as far as our chief concerns (coralline, corals, macros, amphipods, tunicates, filter feeders, bristleworms etc.) they seem to pass the test with flying colors so far. matter of fact, today I was just going to go buy some more to put in another small reef.

This is JMO!
if Dr. Shimek says they are harmful then theres a good darn chance they are to something. perhaps a tank without bumblebees would have more LR biodiversity than one with...
 

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