Reefermadness.us-whad'ya think?
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I have ordered twice and have been very impressed both times. The 5 corals I have received were superior pieces that would have easily sold for double or triple the cost at my LFS. Customer service was excellent. All their prices include shipping. Since ffexpress.com's Diver's Den has been ruined by Drs Foster and Smith this seems to be one of the best places to get wild Acros. The owners seem to know all the species names as well. Highly recommened!
sedgro
sedgro
"The owners seem to know all the species names as well"
Well, they don't realy. What they do is probably report species names as per the shipping info that comes from Walt Smith when the corals are imported. It is damn near impossible to identify Acros down to species.
BTW, I have ordered from them and also was very happy with the quality and size of the corals, and the customer service was very good.
John
Well, they don't realy. What they do is probably report species names as per the shipping info that comes from Walt Smith when the corals are imported. It is damn near impossible to identify Acros down to species.
BTW, I have ordered from them and also was very happy with the quality and size of the corals, and the customer service was very good.
John
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- San Francisco (formerly Manhattan!)
sedgro":98fjhk7p said:
Not meaning to open a can of worms here, but with so many frags and companys/hobbyists now that propagate SPS, why do people still buy wild acros? It seems so unnecessary when there is such a better choice, yes?
I agree to a point.
Problem is in my 1000 gallon tank a 2" acro frag looks pretty pathetic. It would take 2-3 years in order for it to look like I have ANY corals in my tank.
That's just another reason to buy soft corals for me.
My colts have already grown to 24" tall in just a few months.
If I could find some medium sized colonies grown from frags I would be game.
But this 2-3" stuff everybody is selling just ain't working for me.
John
Problem is in my 1000 gallon tank a 2" acro frag looks pretty pathetic. It would take 2-3 years in order for it to look like I have ANY corals in my tank.
That's just another reason to buy soft corals for me.
My colts have already grown to 24" tall in just a few months.
If I could find some medium sized colonies grown from frags I would be game.
But this 2-3" stuff everybody is selling just ain't working for me.
John
John F.
We are all guilty of buying imported colonies, so I am not bashing you for it, but......
I used to work with a surgeon who came to work one day all bummed out. He explained to us in a very "pity me" tone that he was upset that it was going to cost him $10,000 to have the end of his omnistone driveway reconstruced.
It tugged at my heartstrings when he explained why.........
It turns out his Ferrari scraped when he pulled in. :roll:
Anyway, don' expect us to feel bad for you because frags look tiny in your 1000 gallon tank!
Just some friendly ribbing.
Adam
We are all guilty of buying imported colonies, so I am not bashing you for it, but......
I used to work with a surgeon who came to work one day all bummed out. He explained to us in a very "pity me" tone that he was upset that it was going to cost him $10,000 to have the end of his omnistone driveway reconstruced.
It tugged at my heartstrings when he explained why.........
It turns out his Ferrari scraped when he pulled in. :roll:
Anyway, don' expect us to feel bad for you because frags look tiny in your 1000 gallon tank!
Just some friendly ribbing.
Adam
- Location
- San Francisco (formerly Manhattan!)
Very funny- yes I can't be overly critical when you are trying to fill a 1000 gallon tank. However, just image the feeling of accomplishment by growing frags to show size in a tank that large! It would be overwhelming.
My philosophy remains that it is our duty to buy propagated corals, when given the choice. I suppose this is harping, but so be it. It is the hobbyist who creates the demand, and determines the market. With so many corals to choose from, it is entirely possible to create a tank, even a large one, with mostly if not exclusively propogated corals. Patience and perspective, I suppose, are integral for this choice.
My philosophy remains that it is our duty to buy propagated corals, when given the choice. I suppose this is harping, but so be it. It is the hobbyist who creates the demand, and determines the market. With so many corals to choose from, it is entirely possible to create a tank, even a large one, with mostly if not exclusively propogated corals. Patience and perspective, I suppose, are integral for this choice.
"The owners seem to know all the species names as well"
""Well, they don't realy. What they do is probably report species names as per the shipping info that comes from Walt Smith when the corals are imported. It is damn near impossible to identify Acros down to species. ""
Hi folks,
I just wanted to protect my scientific backgroud. Sorry about the latent response to this thread but I wanted to let you all know that I pride myself in identifying corals. I used to work at FFX (5 years) and I also have a degree in fisheries. I also have an extensive library that allows me to research every coral that comes into our warehouse. I have been doing this so long that I have a pretty good idea of what species it might be without having to look at a photo. You all have to remember that I see several hundred Acropora each week and once you are familiar with what is collected by Walt Smith's divers it becomes relatively easy to ID these corals. There are a few Acropora each shipment which do stump me and I have to flip through Veron, etc. for quite a long time before I can pinpoint what species it is. What is even more difficult that trying to ID the wild colonies is trying to ID the frags that are traded throughout the hobby these days. The growth patterns as well as the axial and radial corallites have become so transformed within hobbyists tanks that sometimes they are utterely impossible to ID.
I do not claim to be correct 100% of the time, but I do feel pretty confident with the ID's that I provide. I love my job (I am a fanatical reefer) and I love spending the time trying to ID these corals for the reefers that view my site. It is my passion and always will be because of my scientific background.
Oh, by the way in all my years of working at LA wholesaler, FFX and now owning reefermadness.us I have never, ever come across a distrubitor or wholesaler that ID's the corals down to the species name. They just don't have time.
Happy Reefing,
Chris
Owner
www.reefermadness.us
""Well, they don't realy. What they do is probably report species names as per the shipping info that comes from Walt Smith when the corals are imported. It is damn near impossible to identify Acros down to species. ""
Hi folks,
I just wanted to protect my scientific backgroud. Sorry about the latent response to this thread but I wanted to let you all know that I pride myself in identifying corals. I used to work at FFX (5 years) and I also have a degree in fisheries. I also have an extensive library that allows me to research every coral that comes into our warehouse. I have been doing this so long that I have a pretty good idea of what species it might be without having to look at a photo. You all have to remember that I see several hundred Acropora each week and once you are familiar with what is collected by Walt Smith's divers it becomes relatively easy to ID these corals. There are a few Acropora each shipment which do stump me and I have to flip through Veron, etc. for quite a long time before I can pinpoint what species it is. What is even more difficult that trying to ID the wild colonies is trying to ID the frags that are traded throughout the hobby these days. The growth patterns as well as the axial and radial corallites have become so transformed within hobbyists tanks that sometimes they are utterely impossible to ID.
I do not claim to be correct 100% of the time, but I do feel pretty confident with the ID's that I provide. I love my job (I am a fanatical reefer) and I love spending the time trying to ID these corals for the reefers that view my site. It is my passion and always will be because of my scientific background.
Oh, by the way in all my years of working at LA wholesaler, FFX and now owning reefermadness.us I have never, ever come across a distrubitor or wholesaler that ID's the corals down to the species name. They just don't have time.
Happy Reefing,
Chris
Owner
www.reefermadness.us
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