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WHAT IS THE MINIMUM SIZE TANK YOU COULD PUT A JUVENILE EMPEROR (2") BEFORE YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO A LARGER TANK?
 

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I HAVE READ THAT AN EMPEROR SHOULD BE IN A TANK AT LEAST 75-125 GALLONS DEPENDING WHO YOU LISTEN TO. THEY DO NOT SPECIFY IF THAT IS FOR AN ADULT, JUVENILE, OR BOTH. I WANT TO KNOW IF A 2" EMPEROR WOULD BE OK IN A 31 GALLON FOR A WHILE UNTIL HE GETS LARGER OR I GET A LARGER TANK. I HAVE ONE CLOWN (2") AND ONE SINGAPORE (1.5").
 
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size-wize, should be okay, at least for awhile. I'd worry about aggression against the singapore though. How long has your tank been up? Is that singapore doing okay for you? I haven't had good luck with them.
 

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If I was going to try and turn a 2" juv. imperator into a healthy adult I would start with at least a 55-gallon tank. (75-gallon would be even better) I would probably make plans to move it into that 125-gallon you mentioned at 12-18 months, when it reached 5-6". A couple of years later I would plan on moving it into a 220 or larger tank. Growth rate can vary from fishkeeper to fishkeeper. Most top out around 30cm (12"), , but some can reach 40cm. (about 16") Why try to stunt one?
 
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I've kept these fish off and on for 15 years or so, and I can tell you that an emperor angel of 12" in captivity is possible, but rare. 16" even more so. My current one lives in a 150 gallon reef. He's grown from 2" or so to maybe 4" in 11 months. I don't feed him as much as I could, but he get's enough to stay fat and healthy, and show some growth. I don't WANT him growing too fast for several reasons. First, I love the juvenile color pattern, and second the smaller he is , the better. If you feed heavily, they still tend to get to 7" or so, then slow way down. I've done a lot of experimenting with angels to detrmine what feeding regime is really necessary to keep them healthy. While intentionaly stunting one is not necessary, nor is it necessary to feed them so much that you get the maximum growth rate. This is captivity, and one should keep in mind that the metabolism of many organisms adapts itself to the feeding regime. Angels are no exception here.
Also, many times the change into the adult pattern never completes itself in captive fish. This problem could be dietary in nature, but we really haven't pinned it down yet. In any case, er on the side of the fish and feed as varied a diet as possible. Keep in mind that as youngsters, they are cleaners and take in a fair amount of crustacean foods. Their diet becomes a bit more eclectic as they mature, and high quaility angel formulas are your best bet. Emperors are not obligate sponge feeders as are some angels, notably some of the holocanthids - so don't hesitate to offer meaty foods as well.
Getting them to eat can be problematic, and starting them on live brine is sometimes the only way to keep them going for a time. My current imperator would only eat live brine for 6 weeks or so. Then he started on frozen. Now, he eats anything I put in there including flake food. An individual here and there will not acclimate to prepared foods in time to avoid a severe loss of weight, and the accompanying lapse of the immune system. A risk you take, but you can minimize this by ordering a tank raised specimen.
These fish are among the hardier of the pomocanthids, but this is a realitive term here. Cyanide poisoning is a problem with this species, and a juvenile from Christmas island is your best bet. This last time around I took a chance on another locality - twice. The first time he did a cyanide crash within 3 days. The next one did much better and is still with me a year later.
Best of luck

Jim
 

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