Oceanic salt revisited...

[wade1]

Does anyone know any more about this salt? Is it relabeled and manufactured by someone else? Is it made by IO, Kent, etc?

We're looking to buy a pallet+ and before I jump in, I want more details.

Have you used it? Is it good stuff? Ca, alk, pH after a day or so of mixing? Any troubles with it?

Thanks!
Wade

 

[JohnD]

Wade,

I bought 1 26 lbs jug of this salt last month. It dissolved very well. I am using it for a FO tank, so I am not overly concerned about all of the chemistry. I was attrached to it because of it's packaging. The jug seals tight and I do not have to deal with a hard block of salt.

Do a search on Oceanic salt in the general reefkeeping forum and you will probably find the post I am talking about.

HTH,

JohnD

 

[Big R]

It is NOT relabeled. Oceanic is the only place you can get it. You will not be disappointed!! I've been using it for months.

R

 

[redawg]

another happy user here

 

[Anonymous]

I have used the 2 free bags they sent me. I really liked the way it dissolved and did'nt leave any film in the bottom of my buckets after a day or so of mixing.
Cal:480
ph:8.2(Ihave heard of people having higher results)
alk:9.0dkh

Hav'nt noticed any trobles with it so far.I am planning going out today and buying some to try out for a longer term. I only used 10 gallons on a 110 gallon reef tank and did'nt noticed any adverse reactions from anything.None of the lfs's close to me carry it so I have to drive a ways to get some but I ned some salt anyway and I like the numbers this salt puts out.
HTH
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[Eryl Flynn]

It is made for them by the company that makes Red Sea salt. BUT it is not Red Sea salt, it is made to Oceanic's specifications and much different than Red Sea salt.

That is the technical and verbose answer, the simple one is this is not relabled salt from some one else it is Oceanic's own salt.

 

[shr00m]

i really like red sea salt myself i choose it over IO , i have had problems with it... i know it sounds crazy but IMO red sea has less fluctuations.

 

[Anonymous]

I could'nt find it anywhere around here That sucked I really wanted to try it out for some long term use.I was impressed with it.I did get a bucket of Instant Ocean for 30 bucks with a free T-shirt and a Free highly inaccurate Hydrometer :lol: I guess I will have to start my search on-line but I hate paying those extra shipping fees for the heavy stuff and I usually won't.
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[shr00m]

if you've never tried Red sea give it a shot, i love it compared to IO, been using it 6+ months.

 

[Big R]

Most people I know do not recommend ReaSea because of the evaporative manufacturing method.

R

 

[shr00m]

explain... i know the salt comes from the sea actually but then i thought they added trace elements back to the final product.... regardless i have had less tank fluctuations and much better appearing tank than when i was using IO, IO my numbers flucuated pretty bad, esp nearing WC time. the red sea imo is more stable... but im sure its a matter of preference and givin situation.

 

[Big R]

From what I have read, Red Sea is made by evaporating sea water. The thought is that once it is re-hydrated, it would return to the same chemical composition. This sounds good in theory, but in practice it doesn't actually happen that way. I'm not a chemist, and this is just from what I recall from a similar thread on RC, but suposedly some compounds reform differently from their initial state.

R

 

[Anonymous]

fwiw

redsea is an excellent salt, ime-i used it for 4 yrs on a reeftank that had damsels spawn in it repeatedly


i never understood why people think that the residue, or lack thereof, or the dissolving rate, of any salt is indicative of what type of actual sw it makes


wade- have you tried contacting ron howard at red sea, in texas?

 

[MattM]

Here is what I posted on another thread:

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Red Sea Salt is claimed to be produced by evaoprating sea water. They are the only salt made this way. Unfortunately, there is a reason that other manufacturers go to the trouble and expense of mixing their ingredients dry...

If you evaporate the water from sea water and then add the water back, you will not get the same sea water you started with.

Here is the reason: All of the elements in sea water exist as ions. Either as single elements (like sodium Na+ or cloride Cl-) or as polyatomic ions (like hydroxide OH- or phosphate PO4(3-) ). When you start evaporating the water these ions concentrate and begin to form molecules. The theory is that by adding water back to the mix, the molecules will dissolve back into the proper ions. The problem is that as the water evaporates, there is no control over how the ions combine. For instance, you'd like the carbonate to combine with magnesium because this compond is easily broken down making the carbonate buffer readily available. However, there is nothing to stop the carbonate from combining with calcium as the water evaporates; and calcium carbonate is not soluable at normal aquarium pH levels. In other words, the calcium and carbonate that started out in the sea water end up as sand when you mix up your salt.

Like I said, no other manufacturer makes salt this way, and there is a reason.
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[Anonymous]

I never got the free sample of Oceanic. ANyone else sign up and not get thiers?

B

 

[Anonymous]

I never got the free sample of Oceanic. ANyone else sign up and not get thiers?

B

I had to send them a e-mail and tell them they forgot about me and they sent me 2 free samples
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[Anonymous]

i never understood why people think that the residue, or lack thereof, or the dissolving rate, of any salt is indicative of what type of actual sw it makes

If this was directed towards me about my comments in a earlier post........I never said that it made it a better salt because of it.I simply said [/b]I liked it better because of these qualities.

"I liked it better" was suppose to be highlighted..............oh well I tried :lol:
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[Anonymous]

i never understood why people think that the residue, or lack thereof, or the dissolving rate, of any salt is indicative of what type of actual sw it makes

If this was directed towards me about my comments in a earlier post........I never said that it made it a better salt because of it.I simply said [/b]I liked it better because of these qualities.

"I liked it better" was suppose to be highlighted..............oh well I tried :lol:

it was directed to no one in particular

i've noticed that it's advertised as a selling point among many manufacturers of salt, and that many hobbyists seem to think that it has a direct bearing on the final constituents of rehydrated salt mixes

- i think it has absolutely no relevance on the 'quality' of a salt mix, as it pertains to what reef hobbyists need, or want, from a salt mix

 

[Big R]

I think the fact that Oceanic salt does dissolve so quickly is an important feature! Esspecially for anyone that has ever had to quickly mix-up a batch due to something that has necessitated a quick and/or large water change.

R

 

[shr00m]

um i think you misunderstand, while red sea is evaporated yes, there are trace elements added to the final mix, i mean everyone knows thats you cant just evap sea water for a salt mix, there are trace elements added, im no chemist either, im just speaking from experience of using red sea and IO.