Weekly Discussion - Science

[Anonymous]

Isaac Asimov wrote:

There is a single light of science, and to brighten it anywhere is to brighten it everywhere

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[Brandon1]

ok Brandon has the answers to the worlds problems..he knows all and is mighty...Let me guess "dood" we still need an electoral college right...Yes the constitution was written so anyone could run as a president...HELLO....3rd grade social science....nonetheless...everyone seems to argue the fact against what you are saying about this topic...the fact is hobbyist can contribute to science...fact is hobbyist do contribute to science..if it wasnt for the hobbyist there would be no science...so yes brandon you can quote me...

Sure, I'll quote you. Why am I "high and mighty?" Because I make more sense than you? I'm not trying to be arrogant, just to make sense.


Not the answers to world problems, just corrections for your misstatements and mischaracterizations of my statements.

"Let me guess "dood" we still need an electoral college right" -This is irrelevant, a weak come back, and another topic entirely.

You seem very effected by my opinions. I think that is because you have been having trouble proving me incorrect, despite the effort you have been putting in.

"everyone seems to argue the fact against what you are saying about this topic"- incorrect.


"the fact is hobbyist can contribute to science...fact is hobbyist do contribute to science"- I have said this exactly, multiple times. This is my position. Any implication to the contrary must be read closely and is a response to the anti scientist attitude (remember, you denied it had been voiced, so I quoted you a long list of quotes that prove it, and you dropped the issue) that I believe to be misguided. But we have been over this, have you forgotten?

"if it wasn't for the hobbyist there would be no science"- This is my favorite line. Either you are being very sarcastic or you referring to some vague history in which science has its roots in people's personal passions. In which case we get into the issue again of how one defines a scientist. You don't mean to suggest that modern scientist rely on hobbyists for their existence do you? Because that's how it reads. I won't condemn you for being vauge, why don't you clarify this statement....

 

[Anonymous]

LOL..you cant be serious..wait you are..the whole napoleon syndrome...and like i said...check out websters dictionary on the word scientist....so whats your beef anyways..i dont spend hours coming up with some reply doing research over the net so i can make feeble attempts to be how you put it "make sense"...

"Let me guess "dood" we still need an electoral college right" -This is irrelevant, a weak come back, and another topic entirely.

...true this is irrelevant to this topic..however not a weak comeback...that is your opinion and it is entire different subject as well... Sorry i do believe historically that most of science has come from someones passion...Newton is a good example...do you think Newton came up with physics and calculus just becuz it was his profession? im not gonna research that, you tell me mr scientist...?

 

[melanotaenia1]

Lord Nikon 1: Brandon: 0

:lol:

When in doubt, look to webster, he knows...........

 

[Brandon1]

LOL..you cant be serious..wait you are..the whole napoleon syndrome...and like i said...check out websters dictionary on the word scientist....so whats your beef anyways..i dont spend hours coming up with some reply doing research over the net so i can make feeble attempts to be how you put it "make sense"...

"Let me guess "dood" we still need an electoral college right" -This is irrelevant, a weak come back, and another topic entirely.

...true this is irrelevant to this topic..however not a weak comeback...that is your opinion and it is entire different subject as well... Sorry i do believe historically that most of science has come from someones passion...Newton is a good example...do you think Newton came up with physics and calculus just becuz it was his profession? im not gonna research that, you tell me mr scientist...?

Well its obvious I have said some things that have made you emotional. But you do not respond to almost every point I make that disproves your logic, you select insignificant aspects of my response when you feel you can disagree. I'm not sure what you think I would have researched, and I type my responses in five or ten minutes. And yes, they do make sense.

You wrote- "do you think Newton came up with physics and calculus just becuz it was his profession?"

Newton and the his vastly the different society in which he lived (one in which science was still developing its fundamentals) does not translate into a very relevant discussion about weather hobbyist can contribute to the scientific aspects of reef keeping, but of course great discoveries come from someone's passion. Why would I disagree with this? but it certainly does not mean that hobbyists are superior to scientists when it comes to reef science. That's whats so funny, you still don't understand what I have said. I basically said of course hobbyists CAN contributed and HAVE contributes, but lets not bash scientists because they are the most CAPABLE of making scientific observations and theories, bla bla bla. but I will not reiterate my entire position on this topic again for you. Maybe you need to spend more time researching my posts before you comment on them. The napoleon comment is funny also. I already stated that I am not a scientist. The napoleon complex describes a person who over compensates to cover up their own short comings. If I was a scientist, I do not believe that it would be a short coming, which seems to be the only major difference of opinion we have, the minor ones being your consistent but relatively insignifianct misstatements.

 

[Brandon1]

Nikon wrote- "LOL..you cant be serious"

HAHAHA! this was my line. I said to you a few posts ago, I guess it made an impression on you.

 

[Brandon1]

Lord Nikon 1: Brandon: 0

:lol:

When in doubt, look to webster, he knows...........

The distinction I have been making is very obvious, and stated explicitly: A highly educated (masters,ect.), experienced, scientist vs. a hobbyist. Defining a scientist is a dialogue that we had a couple pages ago, and was a tangent, not the point of what we have been talking about, but in case you are confused I have cleared it up for you.

I wonder how much thought you put into agreeing with Odai. You have been slandering scientists and I called you on it.

Ah f*uck it, you guys are right, we really are smarter then all these scientist losers. Lets start a little internet club where we can agree with each other, while the scientists all over the world are drinking Bud Light, sitting on their thumbs. If we agree with each other enough, maybe it will be true.

 

[Anonymous]

Lord Nikon 1: Brandon: 0

:lol:

When in doubt, look to webster, he knows...........

The distinction I have been making is very obvious, and stated explicitly: A highly educated (masters,ect.), experienced, scientist vs. a hobbyist. Defining a scientist is a dialogue that we had a couple pages ago, and was a tangent, not the point of what we have been talking about, but in case you are confused I have cleared it up for you.

I wonder how much thought you put into agreeing with Odai. You have been slandering scientists and I called you on it.

Ah f*uck it, you guys are right, we really are smarter then all these scientist losers. Lets start a little internet club where we can agree with each other, while the scientists all over the world are drinking Bud Light, sitting on their thumbs. If we agree with each other enough, maybe it will be true.

that language is NOT necessary, nor is it, i believe, allowed here

just fyi

 

[Len]

Since some people apparently don't know how to be civil, I'm closing this thread. edit: for clarification, the reason for this thread's closure was not due to only one individual, but cumulation of multiple parties.

Brandon, it's not your ideas I'm taking issue with; it's your expression of them that our community has problems with.