NYSharkLady":waelv45e said:
Wow...thanks for the attitude.
I'm positive that was directed at least in part towards me. And you won't be getting any apologies from me.
If you're really as knowledgeable as you claim, then you should not be making the kinds of mistakes and statements I've been reading from you. If you come in saying that you know something, and you don't, expect well to be called on it. If you come in saying that you don't know something, and you get
advice, even if it's not what you were after, take it for what it's worth, which is a LOT, and have a little appreciation. You'll also find the (much) kinder, gentler side of old salt reefkeepers.
You're getting something I, and many others like me, never did when we started in this hobby (which soon enough turned into employment in the trade) - free advice from dozens of people willing to share their knowledge. I had to spend hours upon hours upon HOURS physically going to places, talking to employees who didn't have the time or inclination to answer my endless questions, reading magazines, reading and buying books, talking more, driving more, reading more and more and MORE! And here it all is, literally right at your fingertips, and you have a problem with
delivery?
I've been doing reefs now for almost 10 years on and off, so you don't have to tell me about planning it and doing my research. :roll: I even went to school for marine biology and got my degree in it.
Then, why doesn't it seem to show? Do you have any idea how many people say things almost exactly like that (especially the "marine bio degree" bit), then ask questions that make those claims of great knowledge and experience highly suspect? At almost every turn your own words belie something that seems other than the truth behind this statement. If it
is true, then maybe it's simply been a very, very long time since you achieved your degree, and (or) maybe you've never used it. I don't know, I won't suppose to know, but I know how someone who actually holds such a degree speaks, and writes, and behaves.
I know that angels are prone to nip at corals...I was asking if anyone has had any experiance with them IN a reef, etc.
Prone?
Prone?? Let's put it this way, I, for one, wouldn't
dare put the type of fish into a carefully crafted reef that you did. Let alone with NO quarantine whatsoever?? From
Petco???? :roll: (One good roll should get another, eh?) That means that the only experience someone like myself might have with such animals in a reef setting would be in nature.
I hate it when people repeat themselves.
What a relief! You have NO idea how tired many of us get of repeating ourselves.
Just b/c we're buying something from PetCo or taking a chance on something doesn't make us irresponsible people.
You're right. However, the means by which it's done sure can! Especially for someone claiming an actual degree.
I was asking for people with experiance with angels in a reef, NOT asking for peoples opinion on the way I decide to enjoy my hobby.
Some people say some things that make us sound like idiots. I see that a lot around here.
It's seen around a lot of places. You see, this is the thing, you come in declaring all kinds of knowledge, people like us are going to expect a few things from you; that the knowledge you claim (which means you oughtn't be making such mistakes) be the truth, that you demonstrate a high degree of responsibility and caring towards the creatures you take under your care, and no B.S. As a group, we see through it all.
Sorry to get all snippy, but I see it all the time around here and it's really starting to get to me. We've all done things that we wouldn't have agreed with in the past, but it's just human nature
Thanks.
I'm sorry too, but not because you take umbrage with the truth. You have forgotten that the whole purpose of this site is not only to teach the person who poses the question or issue, but each and every OTHER person who takes the time to read it (see "Responses" vs. "Views" on threads). You see, my comment was said with the intention to remind, not just
you, but to any/everyone else reading this, to take some real CARE when taking on living creatures.
When I do so myself, I always ask, "Am I doing everything within my power to ensure best life, health, etc.?" That answer must always be yes, and it's been that way for me since I was a young girl. So I don't think it's expecting too much from a cognizant adult to do the very same thing - to stop, think, ask, then DO everything in his or her power to ensure these things for that which we include in our lives. In my honest, yet admittedly brutal, opinion, when you plopped that fish you'd been eyeballing for weeks into your
established tank, you added another point that gives me pause, and cause to think that something does NOT jive here. You demonstrated a real irresponsibility.
So, I think that those who get to know me are generally happier if I limit my comments to one or two sentences.
(But they also know they can count on me to give them the truth, and that I won't speak on something I know nothing about.)
