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Neuahda

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The stand is a standard metal stand for a 20g high tank. I plan on putting a wood board on top of the stand to cover the extra length. Is the new 29g tank going to be to much weight for the stand? If so what can I do to help support the new weight(and also make it look presentable).
 

Len

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Weightwise, It should be more then plenty. Make sure you use a thick board to span the lenth of the tank in order to make sure load is more evenly distributed.
 
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Also make sure the stand is level! I've popped seams before because the stand wasnt level and put too much strain on one side 8O
 

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Ummmm.....hold off a sec. If it's one of those commercial 20gal stands you can get at Petsmart or (ugh) Petco, be sure it will support that weight.
IIRC, I was trying to find the same thing for my 25gal...what I found was that the stands were rated to just slightly above tank w/water weight (the 250lb range pops into my head)
While that's fine for a 20 gal full of water and rock, it could be cutting it close for a 25.

Just my .02..your mileage may differ
 

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Post a pic if you can so we can see the construction - I figure if it's a metal stand there should be no problems... Especially with that board on top - you'll have weight distributed over the uprights which have a hell of a lot of strength.
 
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Why chance it?

A 29 gallon metal stand is cheap. Plus, if someone knocks into it it has a better chance of falling over.
 

Neuahda

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here is my stand. If you need a better pic just ask and I'll get one
 

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Rikko

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I see absolutely no reason why you couldn't do what you suggested. That's welded steel, is it not? It's not going anywhere. The only potential downfall I see is like ANEMONEBUFF pointed out - less of a footprint means it's more likely to tip over if someone runs headlong into it... a couple times..
 

Neuahda

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As far as I know it's welded steel. I don't see anyone in my house running into it. Specially not several times.

Do you think the stand will start to bow or bend if it's to much weight? Or is it most likely to just collapse?(I will only be adding 9g of water and maybe 10-20 more lbs of sand. I have no idea how heavy all that is. Is there a calculator somewhere?
 

HClH2OFish

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Good rule of thumb is 8lbs/gal - I always round it up to 10

So 9gal + 10-20lbs of sand is an additional 100-110 lbs. by how I figure (it's fudged a bit, I know)

I don't think it'll be a major problem if it's welded steel, but again...if that stand is a commercial stand and not rated for it, you're asking for trouble.

Just my .02 :) Your mileage may vary.
 

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Well, with the board on top of the stand, and assuming a floating bottom tank like you have now, the weigh distributes something like this:
the force of the tank's weight is distributed only around the rim of the tank - so the circumference of the tank is pressing onto the piece of wood. Continuing on, the wood is now only contacting the part of the metal stand that .. well.. it contacts. (Duh :P) Four points are upright metal beams.. Those aren't going anywhere. Ever. Unless you bend them or beat them with a hammer. The rest of the mass that's touching the crossbeams and whatnot don't really come into play as much.. They aren't that likely to buckle, since if they even buckle 1mm they are no longer holding up the tank in that place... But they ARE still holding the upright bits where they should be.
That would theoretically amount to a 'stand' that consists of 4 steel beams propping it up. Think 4 pieces of steel on end could hold up a 29 gallon tank? I do. I think they could hold up my car. Full of people. And bodies in the trunk. With a full tank of gas.

The only risk factor becomes sideward force - torquing, I guess you'd say. Since it's welded it's not too likely to go anywhere, but the only way that stand is going to fail is if it torques sideways and collapses (picture the legs kicking out sideways).
 

Neuahda

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Thanks for all the replies. Next question: Would it be worth it to buy some extra wood and support the tank even more? Maybe add some legs to the wood to make it more like a table.
 
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I'd think that the board bending would be of greater concern than the stand supporting the weight. If your going to add extra support to the board then in effect you've made a 29g stand.
 

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