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My fish keep dying...HELP!!!
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I think it's your water.
Based on the rate of death, the lack of physical injury to mandarin, and non-murderous nature of your living fish, I think the only thing it can be are
Mantis/bad crab (unlikely)
or
Water.
If it were me, I would
1) buy salifert test asap and retest all water parameters.
2) Start swapping out water in a big way, even if water test is ok. Why? Because there are other toxins and such that can kill fish. It could be as simple as the sudden elevation of a toxin will kill the new fish regardless of whcih acclimation technique you use - the established fish could be ok because they've adapted.
Anyway, your 1/2 hour thing is fine. I've done significantly more water in less time and no fish has ever had any issues.
If the water tests out and you have swapped the full volume of the tank 2 or three times over a period of time, I would start to think organism causing death.
Based on the rate of death, the lack of physical injury to mandarin, and non-murderous nature of your living fish, I think the only thing it can be are
Mantis/bad crab (unlikely)
or
Water.
If it were me, I would
1) buy salifert test asap and retest all water parameters.
2) Start swapping out water in a big way, even if water test is ok. Why? Because there are other toxins and such that can kill fish. It could be as simple as the sudden elevation of a toxin will kill the new fish regardless of whcih acclimation technique you use - the established fish could be ok because they've adapted.
Anyway, your 1/2 hour thing is fine. I've done significantly more water in less time and no fish has ever had any issues.
If the water tests out and you have swapped the full volume of the tank 2 or three times over a period of time, I would start to think organism causing death.
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Keep us posted, if it isn't water we'll have to look elsewhere for a cause.
I'll do another 15 gallons in 4 or 5 days. With 100+ lb of live rock, a protein skimmer and water changes it shouldn't take long.
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everyone but the mandarin was PRIOR to the move and the nitrates were zero as tested by the LFS. I know a had a leaking voltage problem tho. Any time I had an open cut and put my finger in the water I could feel it.
I haven't noticed it here tho. I don't know if that's because I'm using fewer pumps or if I don'thave fresh enough cuts. No, I'm not going to find out by cutting myself on purpose.
Now,
everyone but the mandarin was PRIOR to the move and the nitrates were zero as tested by the LFS. I know a had a leaking voltage problem tho. Any time I had an open cut and put my finger in the water I could feel it.
I haven't noticed it here tho. I don't know if that's because I'm using fewer pumps or if I don'thave fresh enough cuts. No, I'm not going to find out by cutting myself on purpose.
ChrisPrusha":3rqvph9k said:
Yep, nothing new there. Well, I hadn't heard of the hole in the head disease thing. The LSF in SC wanted $30 for a grounding probe. I know stainless steel isn't cheap but that was just too expensive for a stupid wire. I, like the guy in the article, could make my own with a trip to Radio Shack.
I'm not sure what kind of heater he was using but I think a my 300W draws enough current to blow a fuse. I accidentally broke it once and it blew the circuit breaker in the house. And kept popping it everytime I reset it until I figured it out. A fuse act quicker than a 15 amp house circuit breaker so maybe he had the wrong kind of fuse.
I haven't gotten to it yet but I was going to make my own before I moved. Once I get my nitrates in order, I'll make one.
Well, if it were me, I'd do as many large water changes as the inhabitants could handle. At 65g you maybe have 55 gallons h20. So a 15 g water change is about 1/5 water vol.
So if you've got something in your water, two of those changes is only going to cut the contaminant about 35%. I suppose the skimmer might get it. Might not.
Regardless of what you do, it probably makes sense to not add any fish for a month.
Good luck.
So if you've got something in your water, two of those changes is only going to cut the contaminant about 35%. I suppose the skimmer might get it. Might not.
Regardless of what you do, it probably makes sense to not add any fish for a month.
Good luck.
Cupric Poison":i5hmtnd8 said:
Sorry about that, 15 gallons today, 4 or 5 days, 15 gallons again and repeat as necessary. I've heard you shouldn't too too much or too many changes. I don't know that "too much" means but I figure I'll be fairly safe at that rate.
Actually I have prbably 100lbs of rock but I have a rubbermaid sump that is probably another 15 to 20 gallons.
Too much water change is bad if
1) you have sensitive organisms or
2) your system doesn't need it.
In your case, however, where the fish are sleeping with the fishes at an alaraming rate, it makes sense, to me and my humble opinion, to swap as much water as the organisms can handle.
In my 10 gallon nano with about 7 gallons of water, I can change 2 gallons a day for a week and not one of the organisms will show any stress whatsoever, as long as the salinity is right and a slow feed the water back into the tank.
Good luck brother.
1) you have sensitive organisms or
2) your system doesn't need it.
In your case, however, where the fish are sleeping with the fishes at an alaraming rate, it makes sense, to me and my humble opinion, to swap as much water as the organisms can handle.
In my 10 gallon nano with about 7 gallons of water, I can change 2 gallons a day for a week and not one of the organisms will show any stress whatsoever, as long as the salinity is right and a slow feed the water back into the tank.
Good luck brother.
Leathers, mushrooms, and cany canes don't like large changes I don't think. Correct me if I'm wrong. The LSF in Sc never recommended more than 25% at a shot and always in a series. I think he spaced them something like a week apart. Now maybe that was for algea blooms or somethign else, I don't know.
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