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Just finished the 1st piece of Starboard ala'Louey. Came out better than i had hoped. There was no need to scuff the board since it had a bizzilion mini dimples. I ended up doing layer after layer and i got some really cool contours. I had to bake the sand i had gotten from the LFS since it was live in a vat. Made sure it was completely DRY. Process was this.

1. Generous amount of PVC glue.
2. Drop sand, not to thick say 1/4".
3. Used pan to bake sand in as a press to compact sand in glue.
4. The not smart part, use oven on WARM... I REPEAT, WARM setting to quick dry. Had plenty of ventilation here so house dosen't reek of pvc cement.
5. Shake off excess into a 55g Rubbermaid lid. This was my place to work in. Was nice. Less mess.
6. Repeat till desired results.

Sand feels like i used liqujid nails on it. if you rub it hard enough you do get sand removal but i had to really rub it hard. Hopefully it works out in water. I have hope since so far Louey's seems to be holding up.
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Looks good Joe. You should call this AKA/Comatose, because I just copied him.

I am surprised you didn't have to sand the starboard to get the sand to stick. When I tested my starboard without sanding, the glue peeled off fairly easily.

I don't worry about a little bit of the sand rubbing off over time anyways. More than half the sand with be covered with rock. The rest should have coraline algea on it in no time.

BTW, STFU. Sorry, but I haven't said that to you in quit a while and just felt compelled to do so :P

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Hah...Yeah. I was happy when i got the board that it wasnt perfectly flat. Working on the second board right now. Will prolly just have enough sand. Tonight i will have water in the tank for its maiden voyage (AGAIN). Wish me luck.

JoeW


LOUEY....STFU APPLE MOUF!!!!
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So the oven was just for quick dry?

Where did you get the starboard? Someone always asks, so I thought I would.

I'll be doing a version of this in a month or so!

Looks good.
 

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Righty":23s7zxx0 said:
So the oven was just for quick dry?

Where did you get the starboard? Someone always asks, so I thought I would.

I'll be doing a version of this in a month or so!

Looks good.

Righto,
Here is what i bought for my 90g. $12.95 per sheet. Almost a perfiect size. Cut very easy with a jig-saw with a fine blade.

http://insidekitchen.com/product_info.p ... 7e275b15bf

Great place. What was nice with mine is it has a nice textured surface so i didn't have to scuff it up.

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That's allot cheaper than what I bought. It must be a lesser grade of cutting board. All of the research that I did regarding "marine board" or "starboard" showed that it is expensive. I believe I paid $60 something per sheet for 24X54 sheets. I needed three to do my 300, so it was well over $200 with shipping.

That's not to say that yours wont work just fine. The site you bought yours at doesn't offer much information about the board. Only that it is polyethelyne.

FWIW, The Cutting Board Factory offered this much imformation regarding their product:

VIRGIN HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE – Butcher Board HD is manufactured from prime virgin high density polyethylene resin which is reflected in the superior quality of our end use product. This is not a second quality product manufactured with off spec resin. This is not material rejected by the manufacturer. We buy only prime virgin material. A thermoplastic board that is virtually indestructible in terms of cracking, warping, chipping, peeling and acid corrosion.

MADE IN THE USA – We are very proud of the fact that our manufactured and fabricated cutting board products are all made in the USA.
We do not and will never import any product line we offer as long as there is a source of raw material made in the USA.

NSF LISTED – NSF listed Under Standard 51 listed material. This certification, received at the expense of the manufacturer,
is a very important quality and fit for use standard meeting stringent NSF criteria. The National Sanitation Foundation is an
independent, not for profit organization. For over 55 years the NSF has focused on public health, safety, and the environment.
The NSF has developed national standards and provides third Party conformity standards representing the interests of the public,
industry and the regulatory community. For more information the NSF website is located at, www.NSF.org

MEETS FDA REGULATIONS – The high density polyethylene resin, Meets Food and Drug Administration requirements for food contact. (Regulation 21CFR177.1520 Item 2.1) For more information on the FDA and this regulation you can locate their website at , www.fda.gov. www.FDA.gov (Title21, Chapter 1, Part 177, Sec. 1520 Olefin Polymers.

USDA COMPLIANT – United States Department of Agriculture food safety compliant. USDA website can be located at,, www.USDA.gov.

AG CANADA ACCEPTED – Agriculture Canada Accepted. , www.AGCANADA.com

LIFETIME GUARANTEE – The Cutting Board Factory provides a lifetime guarantee against material defects but this does not apply to wear from normal use. We also offer a 30 day risk free guarantee. If you are unhappy with your purchase, simply return the Butcher Board HD prepaid and in unused condition within 30 days for a full refund of the price of the product, less shipping & handling. Please contact The Cutting Board Factory for a return goods authorization number prior to the return. Keep in mind a hairline surface scratch(es) may be visible but it is not common. The raw material sheet is commercial / industrial grade and is handled frequently to provide cut-to-size boards.

CUSTOM SIZES AVAILABLE – The Cutting Board Factory can provide any other size not listed in our Product Showroom. We offer Butcher Board HD in ¼, 3/8, ½, 5/8, ¾, & 1” thickness, and up to a 48” x 120” sheet. We can also offer up to a 60” x 120” sheet in ½ through 1” thickness. Don’t hesitate to contact us for your specific needs. www.thecuttingboardfactory.com

FULL SHEET & QTY. DISCOUNT – Check out our full sheet pricing for any of the available gauges in 48” x 96”, 48” x 120”! The ½” through 1” in 60” x 120” is .similarly priced per gauge, per sq. ft. compared to the 48” x 96” & 48” x 120” sheets. Please feel free to contact us for further details on your specific needs. www.thecuttingboardfactory.com

NATURAL (WHITE) COLOR - The prime virgin high density polyethylene resin used to manufacture Butcher Board HD is natural in color.
To the human eye many people would consider the color to be white. Since no pigment is added to the resin it is considered
natural (but it does look white).

PEBBLE FINISH – Due to the low coefficient of high density polyethylene, the pebble or textured finish found on both sides, helps to promote a non-slip surface.

EASY TO CLEAN – Butcher Board HD will not absorb odors or moisture due to it’s molecular makeup, therefore cleaning agents and surface residue simply rinses away. The vast majority, if not all, independent / government institutions agree on washing
the high density polyethylene cutting board using a hot soapy water solution and scrubbing with a brush. If your board fits in the dishwasher, this is
an even a more effective / efficient method for cleaning especially if you have a sanitizer feature equipped on the dishwasher.
You can also sanitize using a solution consisting of one teaspoon of liquid chlorine bleach in one quart of water. Can be mixed and applied with a spray applicator / bottle. Whatever method you choose, be sure to rinse thoroughly. Air dry your board or pat dry with a disposable paper towel. The key is to sanitize the surface and then not to re-introduce microorganisms / bacteria back onto the boards surface with an in use kitchen towel. Pat dry with a paper towel and throw away, or air dry.For more information go to CLOROX.

KEEPS CUTTING UTENSILS SHARP – Due to the molecular makeup of ButcherBoard HD, it”s surface gives way to the cutting action of the knife blade therefore preventing premature dulling of the blade and extends the time between sharpening.
 
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I was under the impression that you guys were using "Starboard" That made me kind of skeptical of the whole idea of using it with glue to hold sand on. I use starboard on boats once in a while and I talked to the tech service the company has about painting it.

they said the following

Sand it with a very coarse disc

Prime it with a very good marine primer and then topcoat with a good marine topcoat.

If you do a very good job and use excellent paint you may in fact get the paint to stick for up to 3 days.

Anyway, I have seen quite a few similar products over the past couple of years, some of them had a relatively smooth surface while some were fairly gritty, it depends on the actual manufacturer.

Here is one of the "grittiest" I have seen, they say it would be good for decking so that you won't slip when its wet. I still say its too slippery for that though, I would want a quality handrail to hang on to :D

http://www.kingstarboard.com/Products/StarboardAS.aspx

So, anyway I have some scraps of starboard at work, plenty of sand and cans and cans of pvc cement, I think I am going to do some destruction testing....
 
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Here is a blurb from their actual site, I have never seen this scotch weld glue, has anyone else?

Because King StarBoard sheet products are designed to resist water and grime, they cannot be painted and the use of adhesives is not recommended. If gluing is absolutely necessary, products such as 3M’s Scotch-Weld DP-8005 and Lord Corporation’s 7540-AB have been used with some success.
 
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Has anyone tried using non- regular pvc cement? The kind that's used for abs/cpcc ect? Would that bond to the polyethelene better?

Also, why not just get it in blue!

Maybe someday I'll go bare bottom. But Probably not!

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Some people have used epoxy from Tap Plastics with good results. But, more have used pvc glue without a problem. :D
 

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Plus PVC cement is probably much cheaper than an epoxy. ;) Honestly you probably could make your own PVC cement by mixing MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) with shaved PVC and allowing it to dissolve before using...

Shane
 
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Hey, is it true that there is no antidote for MEK?

I heard that somewhere
 
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Wow!

I never get any on me because I knew it was nasty, but I am also that way with Acetone, and most of the other thinners I have.

I do get turpentine and Pine tar on my hands frequently, we use it to coat oak as an anti checking agent.

Will MEK work for fastening acrylic together?
 
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When going to all that trouble why use such an ugly color of sand? It's going to look like a permanent Diatom bloom IMO.
 
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It will all turn the color of coraline algae eventually, at least that is what I have heard
 
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I would imagine the bare bottom will go through the normal diatom bloom that new tanks tend to go though. It should easy to clean off. Later the bottom should start getting some coraline coverage. Comatose's did in less than 9 months.

My new tank has far too much flow for any kind of sand. So this beats bare glass, lol.

Louey
 

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