Beaslbob! Now's Your Chance to show your stuff!

[Anonymous]

Here is a picture of a system using 'Bob methods' (whatever that actually is, he seems to keep changing his mind):

I am not amazed by the results, and I would not want a tank that looked like that in my house. Nor am I amazed by the photo of the other tank that Bob posted as evidence of the greatness of his method.

Looks like a eutrophic sh*thole.

 

[Anonymous]

I was waiting for you to chime in Galleon, when I read through this thread for the first time I was like, "I wonder what Chris would have to say about this" :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

After 2 years of flames on how my methods so terrible, he finally got his nitrates down to undectable levels by adding a refugium.

I think it is kinda sad that that is how you think of the discussions with you one RDO. No matter how many ways people explain their concerns, or how much they agree with you, all you seem to see is that people say your methods are terrible.

 

[Anonymous]

Show Me...

Take up the gauntlet bob and do a nano for the contest. As you say, the cost using your methods is minimal.

Until I see something other than a cesspool, (albeit "plant life" :roll: ), there's no way my wife would allow any of these methods in our living room as a "display tank".

Put your money where your mouth is... and show us prices to prove your point, Beaslbob.

Make us proud. :lol:

~wings~

 

[Anonymous]

as illustrated with the pictures and references in this thread words and deeds have already spoken.

Yet commercial facilities grow those same demanding corals with algae scrubbers and no skimmers (inlandaquatics 33,000 g). But don't let the newbies know that.

Bob, Hate to disappoint you but Inland Aquatics does use and recommends skimmers. They also use RO/DI water.

All the pictures you've shown are NOT your tank. Quit showing someone else's success and SHOW YOUR OWN.

 

[Anonymous]

as illustrated with the pictures and references in this thread words and deeds have already spoken.

Yet commercial facilities grow those same demanding corals with algae scrubbers and no skimmers (inlandaquatics 33,000 g). But don't let the newbies know that.

Bob, Hate to disappoint you but Inland Aquatics does use and recommends skimmers. They also use RO/DI water.

All the pictures you've shown are NOT your tank. Quit showing someone else's success and SHOW YOUR OWN.

You are correct. I never said anything about their use of RO/di and they do use it in the coral tanks.

Just called inland aquatics to confirm on skimmers which was my point. They do have small skimmers on the two tanks in the display area. And they do install skimmers on customer systems. But their entire production area is all algae turf scrubbers with no skimmers used

 

[Anonymous]

So are you comparing their 33,000 gals to your home tank?

Let me just say this. Unless you've been to Inland Aquatics, you got no idea. They probably make up 100's of gals of fresh water a day to replace what they sent out the door. THAT is water changes on a daily basis. Also, their algea scrubbers are a source of revenue for them, because they sell tons of algea on a daily basis. I'll bet on a daily sales rate, that they do more business than the good Drs and Petco combined.

And you said that they don't use skimmers. Period. Whether it's on two small display tanks or not, they DO use skimmers. Know your facts, then post it. I've been there on many a time, and I can tell you that their facility boggles the mind.

 

[leftovers]

I think this thread is about dead and its time to move along....

 

[Bucktronix]

the pictures above are all the credibility I need.

your basically an idiot aren't you?

 

[Len]

Hey guys, keep it civil.

 

[Anonymous]

I think his methods are similar to Dr. Ellen Thaler..she uses natural sunlight and algae..Its not eye candy but successful

 

[Anonymous]

Oh, I forgot to mention, that Inland Aquatics buys their RO water from Cullogan.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that they have hair algea in every single tank, on the sales floor and in the back 49. A few places that I haven't seen hair algea are: in the clam display tank in the large classroom, the vats under the display tanks that house rock that is being seeded and in the mother colonys (sp?) pools.

Bob, call and ask Jason about it. I'm sure he'll tell you the truth that they even have hair algea growing in the tanks that house macro algeas. Has anyone else been there and seen it?

 

[bradl.]

Wow. this is pathetic.You guys flame this guy every chance you get.Lay off him already.Everybodys got their own opinions but this is brutal.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow. this is pathetic.You guys flame this guy every chance you get.Lay off him already.Everybodys got their own opinions but this is brutal.

I agree about the brutal part, but not about the lay off part because of the twisted information 'this guy' is giving.

 

[Len]

All I ask is everyone keep it civil. I encourage contentious debate; disagree all you want, but leave out the personal attacks.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow. this is pathetic.You guys flame this guy every chance you get.Lay off him already.Everybodys got their own opinions but this is brutal.

there is nothing brutal about it.
someone resorted to name calling is all and i agree we should not regress to that.

if Bob can't handle it maybe he should stop giving out goofy advice or he could actually put his tank out there like many here have suggested.
i would hate to see someone lose valuable livestock because they started to believe his nonsense. if no one is to dispute him, then what is to keep a newbie from buying into this?

 

[Anonymous]

Wow. this is pathetic.You guys flame this guy every chance you get.Lay off him already.Everybodys got their own opinions but this is brutal.

I agree about the brutal part, but not about the lay off part because of the twisted information 'this guy' is giving.

I'm not flaming the guy, I'm just stating some facts. If that's brutal, then I'm sorry. Beaslebob made some statements about a facility that he's never been to. If algea scrubbers were that successful, then Inland wouldn't have hair algea in thier system. That's what he claimed.

 

[Bucktronix]

im flaming him. ive seen this moronic advice from him to many times, a few times ive put together well thought out replies pointing out where he might be mistaken... only to have him completely abandon the thread once someone posts that seem to actually know wtf they are talking about.

the crazy thing is i agree with some of what he is saying, i also basically use macro algae (and LR) as my only form of filtration. unfortunately the answer isn't always huck some plants into your tank and hope for the best, it's usually a little more complicated than that.

sorry for the name calling len, well not really all that sorry but im saying it

 

[Anonymous]

It is my hope that all people starting any aquarium, including reef, will read this entire thread with pictures and check out all the links.

 

[Anonymous]

The links are not impressive. It would steer me away from adding plants.