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- Thread starter MartinE
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You can feed ordinary nori, just avoid the toasted and seasoned stuff - look in the sushi supplies area. Why no toasted? Beats me, that's just what I've read and I guess it stands to reason.
As for phosphates - I did read a thread on RC a few months ago where a guy actually did some experimentation with his tests and found a significant rise in PO4 when he put the stuff in his tank. I guess the obvious workaround would be to soak the nori in some water for a few minutes before putting it in the tank, AND PULL IT OUT AFTER A FEW HOURS. The stuff will start to fall apart, especially under current or if fish are being a little rough with the whole thing (as opposed to ripping bits off).
The stuff you are seeing is the same as the stuff in your LFS - it's just sheets of dried nori. Only thing I found was that at the end of the day, if you calculate the cost of the supermarket stuff per gram and do the same with the LFS packages, the savings aren't all that substantial. I thought that 12.99 was an idiotic price to pay for the stuff, but then realized that it was a 30 gram container, whereas the supermarket stuff was something like 4 bucks for a 12 gram bag.
As for phosphates - I did read a thread on RC a few months ago where a guy actually did some experimentation with his tests and found a significant rise in PO4 when he put the stuff in his tank. I guess the obvious workaround would be to soak the nori in some water for a few minutes before putting it in the tank, AND PULL IT OUT AFTER A FEW HOURS. The stuff will start to fall apart, especially under current or if fish are being a little rough with the whole thing (as opposed to ripping bits off).
The stuff you are seeing is the same as the stuff in your LFS - it's just sheets of dried nori. Only thing I found was that at the end of the day, if you calculate the cost of the supermarket stuff per gram and do the same with the LFS packages, the savings aren't all that substantial. I thought that 12.99 was an idiotic price to pay for the stuff, but then realized that it was a 30 gram container, whereas the supermarket stuff was something like 4 bucks for a 12 gram bag.
If you're worried about adding phosphates to the tank then that eliminates just about any food one would feed the tanks as pretty well all foods have phosphates in them.
Proof of the pudding is in the testing. Soak dry foods and then test the water the food was soaked in............phosphates.
Frozen foods? Rinse with a little water and test the resultant rinse solution..................phosphates.
In our foods, as well as fish foods or animal foods, phosphates are added in many many forms, for various preservative properties like color stabilization, but for many other reasons as well.
If you find a food that states "no phosphates added" it doesn' t mean there are none in the food, just that none have been added. Phosphates appear to be a natural ingredient in most foods but at levels that don't maintain certain properties the manufacturers wish to maintain so they add more and in many forms, some of which won't be detected by your test kits.
As for using Nori, plain or roasted works just fine, but obviously don't use the spiced types.
Proof of the pudding is in the testing. Soak dry foods and then test the water the food was soaked in............phosphates.
Frozen foods? Rinse with a little water and test the resultant rinse solution..................phosphates.
In our foods, as well as fish foods or animal foods, phosphates are added in many many forms, for various preservative properties like color stabilization, but for many other reasons as well.
If you find a food that states "no phosphates added" it doesn' t mean there are none in the food, just that none have been added. Phosphates appear to be a natural ingredient in most foods but at levels that don't maintain certain properties the manufacturers wish to maintain so they add more and in many forms, some of which won't be detected by your test kits.
As for using Nori, plain or roasted works just fine, but obviously don't use the spiced types.
Mihai":2q3zdvr5 said:
I have a growing vlamingi so feed closer to a half sheet 4-5 times a week. His color has perked up since I've been doing this recently.
Be sure to check out your local asian market. They have great fishfood, (dried squid, dried shrimp, nori, etc...) usually for cheap.
- steve
[tang police disclaimer] the vlamingi was an early uninformed purchase and will be given an appropriate tank as he grows. No better way to talk the veterinarian wife into a bigger tank than tell her that one of her animals is being mistreated by keeping it in such a small 120G tank
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My 1/8 sheet is what gets consumed - I tried to feed more and after 24h it is still uneaten. As far as I know only my yellow tang eats it. I'm using the lettuce clip with the screen such that the tang can only take little bites - this prevents the tang from tearing up large portions that remain uneaten.
My local asian market has at least two fresh marine algae (one like some 2-3' spagetti and one like small pasta butterflies), my tang doesn't care for either of them.
It is true though that the frozen food I feed the tank comes 90% from the asian market (blended thoroughly).
That tank upgrade argument is very interesting. Do you think it works for engineer wifes as well?
M.
My local asian market has at least two fresh marine algae (one like some 2-3' spagetti and one like small pasta butterflies), my tang doesn't care for either of them.
It is true though that the frozen food I feed the tank comes 90% from the asian market (blended thoroughly).
That tank upgrade argument is very interesting. Do you think it works for engineer wifes as well?
M.
If the vlamingi is hungry (ha, if) he will rip off a 2"x1" piece and proceed to mow it down like chipper/shredder in about 3 seconds.
You'll have to figure out the angle on that... since my wife's working with mistreated animals on a daily basis, I think I have a better shot at it. She's already mad at all of the fish junk I have taking up closets that she said the next house, I get a fish room! woohoo. I didn't even have to bring it up, she thought of it all by herself. I married a good one.
- Steve
You'll have to figure out the angle on that... since my wife's working with mistreated animals on a daily basis, I think I have a better shot at it. She's already mad at all of the fish junk I have taking up closets that she said the next house, I get a fish room! woohoo. I didn't even have to bring it up, she thought of it all by herself. I married a good one.
- Steve
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