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- Thread starter hlama
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just hearded back from bob. i asked about the lighting and he told me the T5 are best over MH and PC for my set up and corals. also likes everything but the carnation. told me the fish looked good not overstocked and the corals should all be ok as long as i begin with them small. also told me my filtraion system should not be a problem. so only one thing you agree with him about and thats the carnation. i will take his advice over yours thanks. still going with my friend who has a carnation for some time now and gave me a formula on how to keep them. i hope it works but as for the system and lighting i agree with bob.also said my clams are good as well with the placement towards the top. except for bingo got no help here. bye.
hlama, the great thing about Bob Fenner (a personal friend of mine, by the way) is that his website has an Ask the WetWeb Crew A Question email area so that when your tank starts to have problems, you can email them (us, since I am one of the Crew members there) and we can email you back the answers you will need.
By the way, I never said others could not keep some of these animals. Tubastrea can be kept, you need to feed EACH polyp daily, or almost daily. And your brand new set-up will be TOO unstable for some of the more delicate species. Your inexperience simply makes it a common sense choice to NOT keep these until you have learned a few things. And you will not learn everything you need by simply reading about them, otherwise anyone picking up a book would be an instant expert. You will actually need to gain first-hand experience with this hobby.
Good luck.
By the way, I never said others could not keep some of these animals. Tubastrea can be kept, you need to feed EACH polyp daily, or almost daily. And your brand new set-up will be TOO unstable for some of the more delicate species. Your inexperience simply makes it a common sense choice to NOT keep these until you have learned a few things. And you will not learn everything you need by simply reading about them, otherwise anyone picking up a book would be an instant expert. You will actually need to gain first-hand experience with this hobby.
Good luck.
OH by the way: Here is an article for you regarding the elegance coral which you say Bob Fenner says you can keep:
Quote:
As a "content" provider (writing, photographs) in the ornamental aquatics interest (hobby, business, sciences) I’m faced with
answering queries about "trouble organisms" on a constant basis... As a real "old timer" who’s time in marine husbandry
spans its modern advent (yep, back to Robert P.L.
Straughan) to the present, I have seen trends, topics and fads come and go (e.g. both cycles of sugar as salt mix...
remember Magic Ocean?).
Incredulously, certain aspects of the trade have persisted... I would have never believed the insidious practice of cyanide
poisoning would make it past the millennium, let alone spread from the Philippines to parts of Indonesia...
And livestock... Folks are STILL buying/trying Moorish Idols (Zanclus canescens), Pinnatus Batfish (Platax pinnatus)
and Ribbon Moray Eels (Rhinomuraena spp.)... though these (and other fish species used extensively) have dismal survival
records; more than 99% dying within a few months of wild collection...
And fishes aren’t the only "ridiculous ongoing examples of poor choice"... Back in the fifties and sixties, what was the most
popular genus of corals used in the hobby? Goniopora spp., aka Flower Pot Corals... and still in number two popularity
(Green and Shirley, 1999)... and is still a very poor choice... yes, rating my worst of three rankings (a three) with more
than half dying within three months of gathering off the reef.
Which leads us to the topic of this essay, the
third most commonly available scleractinian species, Elegance Coral, Catalaphyllia jardinei. Though writers from
Veron (1986) to Fatherree (1999) rate this species as "excellent" for aquarium use, more than half of them perish
within a couple of months. My purpose here should be obvious: to make consumers aware of the odds they face in
selecting this reef-building stony coral, and to increase the folks who decide to invest in this species chances of
keeping theirs alive by providing natural history and husbandry information. To wit: this species does not live in
sterile, nutrient-deprived settings... but in the wild in muddy, mucky areas semi-buried in the substrate... sometimes in the
shallows of nearshore, other times at the base of reef slopes at depths of 20 meters or more.
-Robert M. Fenner
Wetwebmedia.com/
Here is the link, if you want to read further:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/elegance.htm
I guess YOU must be the only newbie that Bob thinks can keep this coral alive. Congrats!
:wink:
Quote:
As a "content" provider (writing, photographs) in the ornamental aquatics interest (hobby, business, sciences) I’m faced with
answering queries about "trouble organisms" on a constant basis... As a real "old timer" who’s time in marine husbandry
spans its modern advent (yep, back to Robert P.L.
Straughan) to the present, I have seen trends, topics and fads come and go (e.g. both cycles of sugar as salt mix...
remember Magic Ocean?).
Incredulously, certain aspects of the trade have persisted... I would have never believed the insidious practice of cyanide
poisoning would make it past the millennium, let alone spread from the Philippines to parts of Indonesia...
And livestock... Folks are STILL buying/trying Moorish Idols (Zanclus canescens), Pinnatus Batfish (Platax pinnatus)
and Ribbon Moray Eels (Rhinomuraena spp.)... though these (and other fish species used extensively) have dismal survival
records; more than 99% dying within a few months of wild collection...
And fishes aren’t the only "ridiculous ongoing examples of poor choice"... Back in the fifties and sixties, what was the most
popular genus of corals used in the hobby? Goniopora spp., aka Flower Pot Corals... and still in number two popularity
(Green and Shirley, 1999)... and is still a very poor choice... yes, rating my worst of three rankings (a three) with more
than half dying within three months of gathering off the reef.
Which leads us to the topic of this essay, the
third most commonly available scleractinian species, Elegance Coral, Catalaphyllia jardinei. Though writers from
Veron (1986) to Fatherree (1999) rate this species as "excellent" for aquarium use, more than half of them perish
within a couple of months. My purpose here should be obvious: to make consumers aware of the odds they face in
selecting this reef-building stony coral, and to increase the folks who decide to invest in this species chances of
keeping theirs alive by providing natural history and husbandry information. To wit: this species does not live in
sterile, nutrient-deprived settings... but in the wild in muddy, mucky areas semi-buried in the substrate... sometimes in the
shallows of nearshore, other times at the base of reef slopes at depths of 20 meters or more.
-Robert M. Fenner
Wetwebmedia.com/
Here is the link, if you want to read further:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/elegance.htm
I guess YOU must be the only newbie that Bob thinks can keep this coral alive. Congrats!
:wink:
My turbastrea has been doing fine feeding a couple of times a week for nearly a year now. Just try your best to get each polyp fed everyweek - the more the better. No need for each to be fed EVERY DAY though. Mine seem to like liquid life w/cyclopeeze.
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