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reefdork

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Not sure why it is that RC, and now also fishheads have both banned/removed me from thier sites, I was accused of being a business several times and even suspended on RC 2 times as a result of my listing corals for sale and/or trade.

They call themselves hobbiests websites but thats bogus, I was banned for nothing other than certain mods personal reasons which totally have no bearing on what I was doing on thier sites other than like I said, something personal they didnt like about myself, which is just to bad for them and thats why they are jerks in my book, whomever it is that had anything to do with the said suspensions/bans.

Basically I started in the hobby of reefkeeping 2 years ago now, I like many others became instantly addicted to the overwhelming amount of colors and species of different animals with which to stock a reef system, so within my 4 first months I already had our 75 running good but decided it wasnt big enough, go figure, so I got a 125, used it for about 8 months or so and wanted an even bigger tank.

So now about 2 1/2 to 3 months ago I went out and bought an even bigger tank to setup and enjoy, and when work majorly slowed down a while back I decided I would have to sell alot of my corals to get some of the money spent on them back, to help finish the new tank setup, so I sold some pieces whole, fragged some and made smaller pieces, took my ricordia colonies except 4 which I sold whole, and cut them all in half or quarters to make some multiple single and double polyp pieces to sell cheaper but more often I figured and easier than bigger pieces.

Long story short I posted about 2 or 3 times in a month and a half or so and all of sudden have people trying to bash me for one thing or another, and to tell the truth I dont bite my tongue or typing finger if someone is bashing me simply because they feel like it for whatever reason, and most of all with no proof of any wrong doing on my part, other than on RC was told if I sold things on ebay it made me commercial, what a joke...If anyone who knows RC you already know that you have to watch your p's and q's as it were, and to not use bad language and etc...There is a mod, heck maybe more than one ofem, and he sells corals he buys wholesale to his buddy on RC, and then this person is allowed to go on RC and sell them at top dollar prices, which I dont care about the prices, but its the point.

They are mods and whatever, and are themselves breaking the rules of the buying/selling forum there on ReefCentral, and probably elsewhere to, so what is wrong with a place that calls it a hobbiests site, and then when a hobbiest is actually trying to sell something, for simply trying to upgrade his/her setup, and they get booted, and I being the bootee really dont understand it or the reason, other than to say that those certain people involved suck, and since I couldnt voice that there for obvious reasons I came to what seems to be one of the few sites that actually is a hobbiests site to say what I think and feel about closed minded people in the world like they are.

See its ok for them to do something, when it is actually a violation of thier own UA, but then me or you a hobbiest comes on there and does the same thing but not as a business, and its a violation, does anyone else have a problem with that? They just make up a reason for whatever one day and your gone, a premium paid member, and you get the boot, for doing nothing wrong at all, so I come here and post to sell some of my corals and its all good, and I have way less than the 280+ posts like I did have on RC, plus didnt even pay a premium membership, but definitely will if they have one, and I hope the mods at RC whom were involved with my bogus suspension read this, as they all bite something I wont mention directly, and its just a big place where little people like them, can pick on whoever they want for whatever they want, with no reprocussions, and that is the real tragedy there.

Ah well,on to better things I guess, and maybe someday someone with some decency and honor, along with a little respect will take things over there, and if not hopefully over time enough people will step up and speak up about it, and then they will lose some of thier subscribers, and maybe some sponsors to, cause thats what they are all about, and sure as hell isnt about the hobbiests as they try to portray, and that goes for them and fishheads, they both made personally motivated decisions based on nothing which had actually been a wrong doing, and I spoke my mind about it, and they didnt like it, yet its ok for them to send me emails and pms, accusing me of being a "liar", and a "business", and "commercial" in nature, which is totally untrue and bogus, but was a good enough excuse to use to boot me I guess, and for that they suck and definitely are not a hobbiests site, just a big paid billboard for a bunch of LFS and online vendors who scream bloody murder and get me booted because I am trying to sell some of my corals to upgrade my system, and yet its ok for them to all do much the same thing in thier selling of corals and such, and then get on RC or wherever and sell them under a different name.

Just had to tell this because I was seriously thinking of selling everything and just getting out of the hobby all together because I couldnt believe how I was being treated and singled out on this stuff, like they just didnt want me to be able to sell enough to finish my new tank, or maybe id sell something to someone they might have otherwise, but see now since then that alot of others have told me the same thing about themselves, and I am not getting out of a hobby I love because of a few jerks out there trying to do thier best to make it impossible for me to do what I was trying to do, which was sell off alot of the stuff I had spent money on buying it from half of them in the first place, and I sure didnt get any complaints when I was buying from them, but now that I as an individual was trying to, I get booted and suspended, and called names through the email, and told I was lying about it all, and literally called a "Liar" by beergut, lol meen beerguy, and he dont even know me, just dont like how frank I am about things when people try to attack me, my morals, and my motivations, as I will speak or type my mind or whats on it, and if they didnt want to hear it they should have kept thier mouths shut and fingers off the keyboards.

Thanks alot, and if you could place this in the proper forum if this isnt it, I would like to see if anyone else has had these poor experiences with RC or anywhere else for that matter, and if selling stuff on ebay 3 or 4 times a year makes me a business, then why is it I am so broke after paying bills I need to sell my corals to finish getting the last few things of equipment upgrades I need when I am making so much as a "business"???Lol, I sure dont know... :D


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reefdork

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Also would like to say I havent sold anything on ebay in over 2 or 3 months at least, and when I did sell on there it wasnt just corals, as I bought and sold anything and everything, electronic stuff, jewelry, corals, equipment, and all other kinds of stuff, and about 70% of my feedback was from buying not selling, and I would also like to note that I considered myself to be one of the most customer oriented people on there, or whenever and wherever I am dealing with someone, whether buying or selling, and basically I must have threatened them somehow or something, I just dont understand it, they are what I would have to call mean, plain and simple.

Also I have included pictures of my basement at home here where I live for all to see I am in no way a business, LOL@RC, its obvious, and if you dont know me personally and dont want to take this for what it is, then you could even check with other local reef hobbiests whom have also been to my place and know whats up, and there has been over ten different people, 2 of which are friends as well, but the rest are hobbiests as I and aquaintances only, no reason to lie...And sorry if my basement looks a bit amuck, but we recently had a sump-pump installed in case water ever leaked in, and I had to tear down the 125, put what I had into the stocktank you see, and need to get rid of the last corals I have to move it now so I can setup the big 480.

Was only planning on keeping the bigger colonies of stuff I have and there is only three of them, all the frags I have made need to go, and then I can move the stock tank and will only have 3 things to keep alive while in transition, but there has to be jerks in the world who are jerks for no apparently good reason other than they can be, and they know what I think needs to be done to people like that, cause I toldem, and thats probably something else they just cant handle, someone who is honest and will take a but chewing just as easily and readily as giving one when its called for...And who doesnt lie like they do, and yet have the nerve to tell me I am a liar when they are the ones coming up with all the made up reasons, freegin jerks people have to deal with in life I just dont know, and if the pictures below dont show the reason for needing to sell the corals I have/had, I dont know what else would as these are definitely not the way one would like to be keeping thier livestock, even if it does work, it sure is not the reason I got into the hobby the big tank for my family, friends, and I to look into and enjoy, that is the reason.

Anywho thanks again everyone, and have a good one, and please take a look at my business... :D
 

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Reefdork,

A few pointers:

One: the mods here don't tend to allow people to bash other boards. It causes bad blood and doesn't really achieve much. None of us know the ins and outs and rights and wrongs of what happened between RC and you, so no-one here will probably weigh in on either side.

Two: Sounds like you've been having a rough time of it. Sorry to hear that, but don't let it make you give up a rewarding hobby. Those you had disagreements with over there represent only a very small fraction of the total number of hobbiests in the States. There are bound to be boards you feel more at home than others. Enjoy yourself over here, and try to forget about problems elsewhere.

Three: The Sump might have been the best place for a rant about how badly things are going. As long as you keep other boards out of the conversation, you'll find some people to listen to your frustrations. Some people to completely disagree with you too, and some to bring up boobies or muffins at every opportunity as well, mind you.
 

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Aint that the truth, amen brother, true dat, and all the rest of what could be said, and I will not mention the specific people or entities as it were anymore, they are just plain boobs anyway and not worth me giving up the hobby, just giving up on the fact that there really isnt any justice in the way people run things there I guess and that sucks, because when this happened, I had all kinds of PMs waiting from people who wanted to make trades and buys from me, and then they did what they did, and it really stinks, and if I had no family or life otherwise who knows, but they arent worth it and thats the end of talking about them, whomever they are.... :twisted:

And thank you for the words of encouragement, people elsewhere should try and take notes from what a human being is supposed to act like towards another human being, not just to thier friends and financial beneficiaries.


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you said "in my book"

mabey the idiots think you are selling a book


i feel your pain that beer guy over there just dosnt like me simple as that. i write to him and he insults me. ill see if i still have the letter oh wait they say " property of RC" on the emails so i cant distribute it LMAO yeah right.. email me anemail asking if i agree with that befor you emoil me the actual letter cause as far as i see. IT MINE.

anywho they are real nasty over there even many of the members.
RC is a place to complain
RDO is a place to help and talk and sometimes complain

you will be happier here

rc plays favorites. if u get in to it with a notehr member and a mod has to step in they will favor the peson who has payed them (real member) lmao
 

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I think it's in our community's best interest to close this thread now.

You all are welcomed members of Reefs.org 8)
 
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