Anemone question

[Omni2226]

Hey hows it going?

Found a real nice odd shaped peice of tong rock that I wanted.

Thing is it had whats called a tomato anem stuck to it. So I talked myself into buying the nem to keep from hurting it trying to peel it off.

Picked up an astea snail and a asterina star hicher too but on to my question.

They had it under a small pc light which is what I have. 260 watt 10k's and 03 actinics. So I placed the rock, played some sims 2 and went to bed. The nem moved off the rock to another rock, at the bottom and underneath it out of the lights. Now Im under the impresssion that nems love light, so are there kinds that shun light?

Cant get a pic because its in the dark now but it looks just like its name. Imagine a ripe tomato,slice off 1/4 of the top, flip it upside down and paint the fleshy part neon green. Short tentacles with small bulbs on the end much like a BTA.

Any ideas why it would move into the dark?

 

[Omni2226]

Hers a picture, best I can do with it in the dark.

 

[Omni2226]

Well Omni I hate to be the one to break the bad news but here goes.

That is a Gagamessa Eruptus, and its ticked off because you dont have it in a 300 gallon system with a $2,000 skimmer and $5,000 lighting system.

What it will do is commit suicide by upchucking all its guts thereby poisoning and killing every living thing in your tank. And it will do this 3 minutes after you leave for work so you wont know about it for at least 10 hours. That is why its hiding under that rock out of the light.

What to do? Throw all the saltwater crap out in the yard and set up a turtle tank.

 

[SnowManSnow]

dont listen to that lil guy Just watch it and see what happens. It will move out into light soon enough. Right now I wouldn't sweat it.

It isn't a BTA. They dont have the pink feet. It is really hard to tell with it under the rock like that. It could what you're talking about or even a condy.

Keep us updated when it moves a lil.

 

[Omni2226]

Hey.

Ya I know its not a BTA was just commenting its tentacles are like a BTA.

Im fairly certain its what is called a "mini carpet".
Its moved around under the rock some. started to come out then went even further back under. It has to be a female because it cant make up its mind wether or not its "presentable" for public veiwing. Gotta get that makeup just right ya know :roll:

 

[Omni2226]

Just wanted to give an update. The anemone seems to be adjusting well.

Aparrently it isnt very photosynthetic. At night it gets very active going into feed mode, but during the day it doesnt "wave" its arms much.

Waterflow seems to be the main issue with it. I changed direction on the powerhead that was bathing it and it promptly began to move, so I changed it back and it settled down. If its happy under a rock then Im happy. Hopefuly it will live a long and happy life.

 

[4runner]

The picture very much looks like a bleached bubble-tip anemone. There are BTAs with red bases. See if you can get it to feed. I managed to rescue a bleached BTA with improved lighting and consistent feeding. Bleached BTAs have a tendency to shy away from the light and wander about the aquarium. Be sure that your powerheads have sponges on them. Once again it is very important that you get it to feed. Mine like Mysis shrimp.

 

[FB]

I just picked up the exact same anemone and he is doing the same thing your is. Were you able to get it to come out from under the rock.

Thanks

FB

 

[Josh Weber]

hey guys
i had one of those a while back, i thought it was the prettiest yellow and brightest redorange i'd ever seen. i'm not sure if it is the same as you two have but it was finicky, moved a lot under my rock but not at the bottom. it came out in a week or two and feed and opened up great. they are sensetive animals so be patient and give them a little time.
PS don't let it move too close to a powerhead!!! (thats what mine did)
josh

 

[Entacmaea]

Hey Omni, it is hard to determine the species of anemone from your picture, but it could be an odd color morph of a BTA, or could be a Ritteri anemone, which tend to have more colored columns than BTA's. Though Ritteri tend to like higher light. From the tentacles, it does not look like one of the many species of carpet anemone. However, regardless of the species, you do need to feed this animal, especially in the early stages as it gets oriented in your tank and when it will be using much of its energy resources for adjustment. A good resource I would advise buying would be "Host Anemone Secrets'- about $8 on Amazon, and about 30 pages- a quick but good read if you have never kept anemones before.

In the interim, I would advise trying to feed the anemone small shrimp, mysis size looks right for your anemone's size. Feed the whole shrimp not just the flesh, gently placing in the tentacles until the anemone "grabs it". A good indicator of your specimen's health will be its "stickyness": its ability to use its nematocysts. Wait until the anemone expels the shell before feeding again (this might look odd, like the anemone is turning inside out, or dying, but it is not). I'd feed often in the first couple weeks, 3-4 times a week.

Good luck- a little reading and patience will go a long way.

Best, Peter

 

[Omni2226]

Well I tried small bits of shrimp, squid and octo. Live mysis and pureed fish mush. Nothing. It wouldnt even try to hold on to food.

Yesterday the snails and worms had moved in so I removed and tossed it.

I should have known better and broke the rules. Something told me not to buy the animal, my system is only 4 months old and even though its fishless and water tests (those I can do like amo trates phosphate etc) are all good the little voice told me my tank isnt ready for sick animals to be nursed back to health.

 

[FB]

Thats too bad. Hope I can have better luck.

Last night when I got home it was on the bottom of the rock. He was completly deflated. So I flipped the rock to see what he would do. He slowly started to fill. I put some brine shrimp on him. The food stayed but he didn't eat any of it.

At 11:00 last night my lights went out and my blue led's came on. He opened right up waving in the water. I leave for work before the lights come on so I don't know what he is doing. He seems very comfortable in the place he has chosen.

Wish me luck. I can post some pictures when I get home tonight.

FB

 

[Entacmaea]

Hey FB, I would advise not trying to manipulate the anemone's environment too much- it will move to where it is most comfortable. Too much moving and changing environment will stress it, and/or make it expend much needed energy to move again rather than in making nematocysts for food capture. Brine shrimp are probably not nutritionally sufficient for your anemone, try feeding a single larger shrimp, perhaps soaked in a vitamin supplement. If it is not exhibiting a feeding response (stickyness, or taking in food) you will have to be persistent but gentle- place the food in its center, not on the end of the tentacles and hold it there gently for as long as it takes for the animal to take it in. Try every day until it feeds.

 

[FB]

Talked to my wife. The anemone was full and flowing this morning until the lights came on. It then shriveled up.

Why would it shy away from the light. And then be full when the lights are out.

If anything I would expect the opposite.

FB

 

[Entacmaea]

Hey FB, can you provide a picture of your organism?

An anemone will sometimes look deflated, and have a gapeing oral disk, when it is expelling waste. This should be independent of lighting, however, but rather should depend on when it was fed. Some anemones like to be partially shaded- I've had a similar sitiuation with my last BTA, which was a propagated clone, that it liked to hang under a rock ledge and be partially shaded. It is particularly important to feed it if this is the case.

Have you tried feeding it?

 

[FB]

Here is a picutre of the Anemone

 

[SnowManSnow]

seabe anemone???

 

[Entacmaea]

FB- it looks bleached, so you will need to get it feeding ASAP...

 

[FB]

I've been trying to feed it with not much luck.

I was told it was a BTA. Is it a seabe. Because if it is a seabe I'll be taking it back.

Anyone.

Thanks

FB

 

[Anonymous]

Looks like a sebae to me as well.