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stinger

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Just wondering if you want to keep a few different tangs, is there general rule of order in introducing them to the tank? for example maybe you would want to put yellow tang first coz it's the smallest (maybe least aggresive) and the big one such as naso tang last?
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BTW tank size is 300 gallon
 

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Naso's are the least aggressive tangs, and can be added first, regardless of size. Hippo Tangs are pretty timid, too. The rest of the order would be Ctenochaetus, Zebrasoma, than Acanthurus would be last.

Have fun tang shopping!
 
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I added a Naso to a tank with a Kole, and the first day the Kole seemed to try to "push" against the Naso maybe saying "hey this is my feeding grounds!" even though the Kole was less than half the size.

After a day that went away.
 

stinger

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thanks for that
naso it is then...
How many tang can you keep in a tank this size?

also question on quarantine tank, how big should it be? will a 10 gallon, a heater, power head, some pvc to hide in be enough? (for tangs)
 
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GAH!? For a Naso? No way will 10g be sufficient for a QT, only way it would be is if you got an ultra-small juvenile.

How many for the tank? Well that's hard to say, I'm not a huge tang fan myself so I wouldn't keep more than 2 or 3.
 

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How many tangs are you looking to keep? the smallest tank i would go for one tang is a 55 gal. :wink:
 

stinger

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so far i'm thinking about a naso, blue, yellow and a powder blue
in that order too.
BTW why is naso difficult to keep? are they picky eater or something?
i'm still not sure about the size of q tank, i might just put the naso straight into the main tank since there are only 5 chromis and a pair of percula clown.
the only place i can put the q tank is next to the sump (not a lot of space really), that is if i can convince my other half
 
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Its hard to get him to eat regularly. It comes in spirts for him. Very skiddish.

If you can get him to eat regularly than I think you should be fine.

If you have alot of hermits (they will eat the sea weed or algea you put in there for the tang), get them out or at least keep just a few. The tangs need all that algea to eat anyways.

My hermits would regularly knock the clip off the glass to eat the algea.

Just my experience.
 

Unarce

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stinger":1f9jt43k said:
so far i'm thinking about a naso, blue, yellow and a powder blue
in that order too.

Do you mean blue tang as in Dorie, or the blue tang that starts off yellow as a juvenile?
 

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Unarce":180ii35r said:
Do you mean blue tang as in Dorie, or the blue tang that starts off yellow as a juvenile?

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!! I can't believe you just said Dorie!!!!!!! What's this hobby coming to when a moderator starts using Nemo references???!!! :wink:
 

Oceans Ferevh

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Sheesh, at least you only had to hear it once. I work at a LFS and have to hear that phrase EVERY time I go in :evil:

As for your Naso, they are not that hard to take care of as long as you get a healthy specimen to begin with. After handling hundreds of surgeonfish I can say that any tang that is supposedly an "Expert Only" fish can be kept if you get it from a good wholesaler who in turn received it from a fisherman who knew what the heck he was doing when he caught it and held it before shipment. Stress during capture and transit are one of the leading causes of death in fish. I have had PBT's that immediately started eating while yellow tangs perished. MAC certified fish consistently do better than all others. I also highly recommend Quality Marine as a wholesaler.

As for Acanthurus being the most belligerent, it depends on which one. In my experience I would rank tangs in order of most to least belligerent as such:

Very highly Aggressive: These are the tangs we can house with triggers, Eels, Puffers, large wrasses, and heniochus (which is a real mean fish believe it or not) with no trouble.
Acanthurus Sohal (Sohal)
Acanthurus lineatus (Clown),

Rather Aggressive: These tangs are bullies who pester other surgeonfish to establish dominance and gain control of food.
Acanthurus leucosternon (powder Blue)
Zebrasoma xanthurum (Purple tang)
Zebrasoma scopes (Scopas tang)
Zebrasoma flavescenes (yellow tang)

Mid-Aggressive: These to mind their own business unless it concerns another tang.
Acanthurus achillis (Achilles tang)
Zebrasoma Veliferum (Sailfin Tang)
ctenochaetus strigosus (Kole’s tang)
ctenochaetus Truncatus (Square-tail)
zebrasoma desjardinii (Indian Ocean sailfin tang)

Low-Aggressive: These surgeonfish don’t care about other tangs unless they are similar in form (Naso to Naso) or color (Juv. Yellow mimic & Juv. Yellow shoulder).
Naso Vlamingi (Vlamingi Tang)
Acanthurus japonicus (powder brown tang)
Acanthurus Pyroferus (Mimic tang)
Naso Breviostris (Spotted Unicorn)
Naso Lituratus (Naso Tang)
Acanthurus Chirugus (Doctorfish or sometimes called White-ring Tang)
Acanthurus Thompsoni (Thompson’s Surgeonfish or White-Tail Tang)
Naso Breviostris (Palefin Unicornfish)
Naso Unicornis (Bluespine Unicornfish)

Passive: These are happy-go-lucky guys that tend to not bother others at all.
Ctenochaetus Tomiensis (Tomini Tang)
Acanthus Olivacaeus (Orange Shoulder Tang)
Acanthurus Triostegus (convict tang)
Acanthurus nigricans (Whitecheek tang or sometimes called powder grey)
Acanthurus Tristis (Indian Mimic Tang-Eibl)
Paracanthurus Hepatus (Palette Blue tang)


I cannot comment on Acnthurus Coerruleus (Atlantic Blue Tang), Zebrasoma Rostratum (Longnose Black Tang), Acanthurus Tennentii (Lieutenant Tang), Acanthurus Nigrofuscus (Brown Tang), Ctenochaetus Binotatus (Twospot Tang), Ctenochaetus Hawaiiensis (Chevron or Hawaiian Tang), Acanthurus Mata (Elongate Tang), Acanthurus guttatus (jeweled tang), or Zebrasomma Gemmatum (Gem Tang). We have not carried these before and thus I have no experience with them.


Size, health, and individual personality need to be taken into account when housing tangs together. A Very aggressive tang can be easily kept with a passive tang if the passive member is much larger when introduced and housed first, and in a large enough tank to avoid the aggressive tang.

Now that I’ve rambled on for far too long, I’d say that your order is just fine.

P.S. Have you considered a Convict Tang? They have the most beautiful pearly look when they are healthy :D
 

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Oceans Ferevh":3ty75rac said:
Sheesh, at least you only had to hear it once. I work at a LFS and have to hear that phrase EVERY time I go in :evil:

Haha, that must suck.

That is a great list you've compiled there. This should be a sticky or a library article or something...
 

stinger

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yes the blue tang as in Dorie :)
I haven't got a hermit crab yet. I was thinking of getting a few, but haven't been able to find a shop that actually sells them. How about sticking the clip near the top of the surface? the hermits shouldn't be able to reach it right?
BTW thanks for the long list, to bad i can't get most of them (not that they all would fit in my tank or fit the budget anyway :roll: ). A lot of them are not common down here :( and i don't think i can get convict tang either...
 

Oceans Ferevh

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You live near coral reefs and you can't get many types of tangs? That is a bummer! :lol: Do most of the major live fish sites ship to Australia? Marinedepotlive.com Marinecenter.com liveaquaria.com? That is a pain. Sorry to hear it.
 

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Do you all know which is better from ich?
I like to have a tang easy for newbee.
I had a powder brown and they said it easy at the LFS.
Wrong I read it is one of the hardest they are right and it died in three weeks it was eating very well but it got ich I had no luck to but it back in the QT.
 

stinger

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yep, i thought we would have a lot of types but nope. probably those guys in the eastern states are better off. that's where every thing goes first, perth is probably the most isolated city :roll: also the eastern state is where the great barrier reef lies anyway...
BTW what's this about making some part of hawaii as a national monument? does that mean we can't get anymore yellow tang?

with regards to ich, i know that blue tang is the one prone to it. not sure about the rest though
 

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