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stinger

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i've found quite a number of people have a yellow and a purple tang together. i've also read about how it's more likely that tangs with the same shape will fight. So i'm just wondering if you guys can share how you manage to get both yellow and purple tang together or not...
tank size, other inhabitants, or order of introduction to the tank might be useful info as well

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It's mostly color and genus rather than shape. You need to make sure your tank is large enough to hold 2 tangs though.

Most, if introduced as juveniles, can congregate together successfully.
 

stinger

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the tank size is 300 gal, i've got the yellow tang already plus a hippo and a naso. i'm thinking about a powder blue tang as well, just going through my options now...
 
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Powder blue and purple are more aggressive than the ones you have in the tank currently. Just be careful, but with the size of your tank you may be able to pull it off. Get them small to start out with.

Peace,

Chip
 

Minh Nguyen

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The Powder blue is most aggressive with the Purple second most of all the tangs you have or consider. They will do fine in a 300 g tank. I would add the Powder blue last or at least at them same time as the Purple.
 
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I would steer clear of the Powder Blue...I'm suprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but they don't ship well, and in general don't adapt well to captivity. Without a doubt one of those fish better left in the ocean.

For every one that thrives in captivity, (and I'm not saying you won't get lucky and have this experience yourself) there are hundreds that die during shipping, at the wholesaler, at the retailer, and finally in unwary hobbiests tanks.

There are enough other options that risking this species doesn't make a whole lot of sense IMO.

Jim
 

Minh Nguyen

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Jim,
I never have any problem with the Powder Blue. It is more sensitive and more dificult to keep than Yellow or Purple tang. IMO, it is far from being a "do not keep" fish. It's care requirement are well know: Clean water, larger tank with good flow, and Powder Blue require no special diet. It is more aggressive and can stress out easier than other common tang. A larger, well run reef tank should have no problem keeping PB tang.
 
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I don't doubt what you say Minh, or your own experience, but how many specimens have passed through your hands? In several decades of experience, including working at a wholesaler and a retailer, and seeing hundreds of them deteriorate, I know differently. I can keep it as well providing I start out with a healthy, non-cyanide caught specimen, as can other experienced hobbyists. That doesn't mean I think it should be collected and imported. In my opinion, not enough of them survive capture to warrant their inclusion in the hobby in general, and relative to other species, it doesn't adapt to a glass box for MOST hobbyists nearly as readily. It's immune response is compromised much quicker for one thing, it's much more prone to C. irritans infections, and you can't tell me that a powder blue is in the same category of hardiness as a Zebrasoma or a Naso.

Now, purchase 40 Powder Blues, 40 Yellow Tangs, 40 Naso Tangs, and 40 Hippo tangs, watch your results, then repeat your above post to me. :wink:

I realize it can be kept by an experienced hobbiests in a large reef tank, with a bit of luck in seleccting a clean specimen, but that doesn't change how many others perish compared to other species available. No, it's not in Moorish Idol territory, but still in the realm of better left alone if you think the cruel side of this hobby, which we don't talk much about, should be mitigated.

I respect your own experience Minh, and you as a hobbiest in droves...however regarding this species there's too much empirical data otherwise to call it a hardy fish, despite the few that thrive for you or a handful of others here.

Peace

Jim
 

Minh Nguyen

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Jim,
I certainly do have the experience you have in dealing with fish in the retail enviroment. I have seen many healthy Powder Blue tangs in friend's tank. I do see many not so healthy PBT in LFS however. I do not consider a PBT is an easy fish to keep, but certainly not impossible. I do agree with you that PBT is harder to keep than Yellow, Purple or Hippo tangs. Personally I keep only two PBT. One died when my tank crash and the other thriving in a friend's tank now. I took down my 450 g tank about 18 months ago.
IMO, Naso are not suitable aquarium fish. They can be keep for several year but they are open water fish and get too big for most aquarium. We certainly often hear about Naso healthy one day and dead the next.
One other thing just to consider: How many fish regarless of species that was inported to the US today will still be living 1 year, two year or three years from now?
 
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Minh Nguyen":3up0p6s6 said:
One other thing just to consider: How many fish regarless of species that was inported to the US today will still be living 1 year, two year or three years from now?

Exactly, the question is at what point do you stop the madness, and draw the line and decide that the mortality rate for a given species is just too high...in this case, mind bendingly high - although not in Beaked Leatherjacket or Moorish Idol territory.
 
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I agree on the Naso, I've tried a couple times to keep one and like you guys said, great one day and dead the next. I will never get another one again.
 

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My former Boss has had great sucess with MAC certified Powder Blue Tangs. They always come in healthy and start eating right away. We have never had one die if it is a MAC fish. Maybe if all fish were treated this way we woulnd't have so many "impossible" to keep fish. But for now your right. As is PBT should not be imported along with MANY other fish and inverts.
 

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