Glass Cages- my experience

[Anonymous]

My glass cages acrylic baffles fit snugly around the glass overflows. They held themselves in place.

Ef3S wrote:

AHAHA These people make tanks for a living yet claim they know of no way to attach acrylic to glass?

Is this a joke?

That's not a joke at all. There is no such thing as a glue or silicone (or anthing else) that permenantly bonds glass to acrylic. So what they say is true.

Louey

 

[Ef3s]

Depends on your definition of permanent.

Pretty sure some epoxy would work?

 

[Anonymous]

That's not a joke at all. There is no such thing as a glue or silicone (or anthing else) that permenantly bonds glass to acrylic. So what they say is true.

Louey

Well does silicone really permanently bond glass to glass?

 

[Anonymous]

My guess is they make mats used in wrestling competitions.

 

[Anonymous]

I've used silicone to try to adhere a plastic or acrylic to glass. Is it not a strong permanent bond, but it will hold if there is not a lot of pressure against it. But, I think having the cover for the overflows removable is kinda cool. You could take them out to try to get off the coraline.


Hey, wait! The overflows on my All Glass tanks are glued in?

 

[Ef3s]

It's not an all glass aqua..it's "Class cages."

 

[Anonymous]

I know, but if AGA can, why can't Class cages? I am going to have to look at my overflows more closely....

 

[ChrisRD]

IME if it's applied properly and the correct type is used, silicone sticks well enough to acrylic to easily hold non-structural entities in a glass tank or sump for many years of continous use.

I've used the GE Type I Window & Door stuff many times to install acrylic overflow boxes, sump baffles/partitions, etc. into glass tanks for myself and others over the years. I've never had a single problem with any of this stuff failing after years of continous use.

In fact, when breaking some of the older systems down, it's actually been downright hard to remove some of the overflow boxes and partitions. In one case, when removing acrylic dividers from an old glass sump, I actually had to resort to sawing them in half first and then knocking them out with a hammer!

I'm guessing those baffles wouldn't have fallen out any time soon due to a poor silicone-acrylic bond! :wink:

 

[SnowManSnow]

<-- used silicon to adhere my acrylic baffs to my glass sump...

holding very well..

as RD stated

 

[metalac]

<-- used silicon to adhere my acrylic baffs to my glass sump...

holding very well..

as RD stated

Glad to hear that. I used silicon on acrylic baffs in glass sump yesterday. SO far so good, but it hasn't been water tested yet

 

[SnowManSnow]

i think you'll be fine as long as it isnt under a lot of pressure...

then again,,, my baffs didnt have to be 100% water proof

 

[metalac]

i think you'll be fine as long as it isnt under a lot of pressure...

then again,,, my baffs didnt have to be 100% water proof

neither do mine, it's just a section that divides skimmer from return water, so it would be nice to be 100% water proof, but if it isn't it's not going to be a big deal

 

[mr_X]

i used marine grade silicone to bond my baffles to the glass in my sump. they have not budged since. i got the stuff from a big adhesive factory i was pouring concrete at a while back. also, they will glue baffles in an acrylic sump for you, why don't they use the same glue to do this?

 

[trido]

Ive found a product at my local Tap plastics store that I think is great. E6000. It acts like silicone with a hint of acrylic glue. It dries quicker and a little bit harder than silicone. It was recommended by one of the employees and I love it. Great for glass to acrylic adhesion. Tried tested and approved by DIYer and corals alike. Ive used it on my internal overflows on two tanks and my sump. Six months and not even the edges budge after a razor blade cleaning. Here's one link http://www.gluguru.com/1_part_adhesives.htm#e6000