just spoke with Hal again. while on the phone, he took the hose and bent it 90 degrees and measured it at about 2" for me. he also offered to put a U-Bend so that it can sit on the edge of my sump with a 12" drop and then the coil comes up about 12" to make it 24" to the bottom. very very nice guy. that will now leave me 4' of 'hose' to make it from the chiller to the top of my sump (2' tall).