i feel kind of stupid on how i got stung. the bottom line is that i did. it got me right on the the palm of my hand. it hurt real bad, then the pain started shooting through my hand then felt pulsating sensations in my hand. i wash it with soap and water and tried to squeeze the blood out to rid some of the venom. after about 30 minutes or so it was feeling much better the pulsating and pain went away. now it just feels sore. im pretty glad im not allergic to the venom. the lesson to be learnt here is their sting hurts like no tomorrow and one should not put them selmselves at risk for a sting unless they like pain. :splitspin