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The basics of algae turf scrubbers and their role in natural water filtration.
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Step-by-step guidance on setting up and maintaining an algae turf scrubber in your aquarium.
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The benefits of using algae as a biofiltration method to maintain water quality and balance nutrients.

Algae turf scrubbers are a revolutionary approach to maintaining pristine water conditions in aquariums through the cultivation of beneficial algae. These systems not only help control nutrients but also reduce harmful substances, providing a healthier environment for your aquatic life. This guide delves into the science behind algae turf scrubbers, offering practical advice on how to harness their power effectively in your saltwater or freshwater setup.

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Read the Full Article Here: https://www.mantasystems.net/a/blog/post/algae-scrubbers

Explore the sustainable power of algae to keep your aquarium clean and thriving. This guide is perfect for aquarists of all levels interested in eco-friendly alternatives to traditional filtration systems. Join us as we uncover the secrets of effective algae management!
 

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Timfish

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Unfortunately what isn't mentioned with algae scrubbers are the alleopathic products (Dissolved Organic Carbon, DOC, sugars) they can produce that is detrimental for corals. Here's a partial list of research showing the antagonistc of algae towards corals:

"Coral Reefs in the Microbial Seas " This video compliments Rohwer's book of the same title. Used copies are available on line and it may be free to read on Internet Archive. both deal with the conflicting roles of the different types of DOC (carbon dosing) in reef ecosystems and how it can alter coral microbiomes. While there is overlap bewteen his book and the video both have information not covered by the other and together give a broader view of the complex relationships found in reef ecosystems and are an excellent starting point to understand the conflicting roles of Dissolved Organic Carbon (DOC, aka "carbon dosing") in reef ecosystems.

Maintenance of Coral Reef Health (refferences at the end)

Indirect effects of algae on coral: algaeโ€mediated, microbeโ€induced coral mortality

Influence of coral and algal exudates on microbially mediated reef metabolism.
Coral DOC improves oxygen (autotrophy), algae DOC reduces oxygen (heterotrophy).

Role of elevated organic carbon levels and microbial activity in coral mortality

Effects of Coral Reef Benthic Primary Producers on Dissolved Organic Carbon and Microbial Activity
Algae releases significantly more DOC into the water than coral.

Pathologies and mortality rates caused by organic carbon and nutrient stressors in three Caribbean coral species.
DOC caused coral death but not high nitrates, phosphates or ammonium.

Visualization of oxygen distribution patterns caused by coral and algae

Biological oxygen demand optode analysis of coral reef-associated microbial communities exposed to algal exudates
Exposure to exudates derived from turf algae stimulated higher oxygen drawdown by the coral-associated bacteria.

Microbial ecology: Algae feed a shift on coral reefs

Coral and macroalgal exudates vary in neutral sugar composition and differentially enrich reef bacterioplankton lineages.

Sugar enrichment provides evidence for a role of nitrogen fixation in coral bleaching

Elevated ammonium delays the impairment of the coral-dinoflagellate symbiosis during labile carbon pollution
(here's an argument for maintaining heavy fish loads if you're carbon dosing)

Excess labile carbon promotes the expression of virulence factors in coral reef bacterioplankton

Unseen players shape benthic competition on coral reefs.

Allelochemicals Produced by Brown Macroalgae of the Lobophora Genus Are Active against Coral Larvae and Associated Bacteria, Supporting Pathogenic Shifts to Vibrio Dominance.

Macroalgae decrease growth and alter microbial community structure of the reef-building coral, Porites astreoides.

Macroalgal extracts induce bacterial assemblage shifts and sublethal tissue stress in Caribbean corals.

Biophysical and physiological processes causing oxygen loss from coral reefs.

Global microbialization of coral reefs
DDAM Proven

Coral Reef Microorganisms in a Changing Climate, Fig 3

Ecosystem Microbiology of Coral Reefs: Linking Genomic, Metabolomic, and Biogeochemical Dynamics from Animal Symbioses to Reefscape Processes
 

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Unfortunately what isn't mentioned with algae scrubbers are the alleopathic products (Dissolved Organic Carbon, DOC, sugars) they can produce that is detrimental for corals. Here's a partial list of research showing the antagonistc of algae towards corals:

"Coral Reefs in the Microbial Seas " This video compliments Rohwer's book of the same title. Used copies are available on line and it may be free to read on Internet Archive. both deal with the conflicting roles of the different types of DOC (carbon dosing) in reef ecosystems and how it can alter coral microbiomes. While there is overlap bewteen his book and the video both have information not covered by the other and together give a broader view of the complex relationships found in reef ecosystems and are an excellent starting point to understand the conflicting roles of Dissolved Organic Carbon (DOC, aka "carbon dosing") in reef ecosystems.

Maintenance of Coral Reef Health (refferences at the end)

Indirect effects of algae on coral: algaeโ€mediated, microbeโ€induced coral mortality

Influence of coral and algal exudates on microbially mediated reef metabolism.
Coral DOC improves oxygen (autotrophy), algae DOC reduces oxygen (heterotrophy).

Role of elevated organic carbon levels and microbial activity in coral mortality

Effects of Coral Reef Benthic Primary Producers on Dissolved Organic Carbon and Microbial Activity
Algae releases significantly more DOC into the water than coral.

Pathologies and mortality rates caused by organic carbon and nutrient stressors in three Caribbean coral species.
DOC caused coral death but not high nitrates, phosphates or ammonium.

Visualization of oxygen distribution patterns caused by coral and algae
Perfect website for short or long play sessions.
Biological oxygen demand optode analysis of coral reef-associated microbial communities exposed to algal exudates
Exposure to exudates derived from turf algae stimulated higher oxygen drawdown by the coral-associated bacteria.

Microbial ecology: Algae feed a shift on coral reefs

Coral and macroalgal exudates vary in neutral sugar composition and differentially enrich reef bacterioplankton lineages.

Sugar enrichment provides evidence for a role of nitrogen fixation in coral bleaching

Elevated ammonium delays the impairment of the coral-dinoflagellate symbiosis during labile carbon pollution
(here's an argument for maintaining heavy fish loads if you're carbon dosing)

Excess labile carbon promotes the expression of virulence factors in coral reef bacterioplankton

Unseen players shape benthic competition on coral reefs.

Allelochemicals Produced by Brown Macroalgae of the Lobophora Genus Are Active against Coral Larvae and Associated Bacteria, Supporting Pathogenic Shifts to Vibrio Dominance.

Macroalgae decrease growth and alter microbial community structure of the reef-building coral, Porites astreoides.

Macroalgal extracts induce bacterial assemblage shifts and sublethal tissue stress in Caribbean corals.

Biophysical and physiological processes causing oxygen loss from coral reefs.

Global microbialization of coral reefs
DDAM Proven

Coral Reef Microorganisms in a Changing Climate, Fig 3

Ecosystem Microbiology of Coral Reefs: Linking Genomic, Metabolomic, and Biogeochemical Dynamics from Animal Symbioses to Reefscape Processes
You're absolutely rightโ€”algae scrubbers, while effective for nutrient export, can unintentionally contribute to coral stress through allelopathic compounds and DOC release, especially if not properly managed. Rohwerโ€™s work, particularly in Coral Reefs in the Microbial Seas, is a valuable resource for understanding how these dissolved organics can shift coral microbiomes toward more pathogenic states.


Have you observed any specific coral responses in your own system when running a scrubber, like polyp retraction or tissue recession?
 
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This mixed reef system without a skimmer is the last time I tried a refugium with algae. Curiously, after about a year the macros pretty much stopped growing. If you can find it, Pellette in his review published in Sea Scope, of Ling Sy's miricale mud system, without a skimmer, the same thing happened.

 

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. . . Have you observed any specific coral responses in your own system when running a scrubber, like polyp retraction or tissue recession?

Been thinking about this some more. I stopped using macro algae in refugiums back in 2008 because I didn't see any benefit the times I used (I did have a client in 2010 that insisted om cheato). I can't say diffinitively I have seen a direct correlation between macroalgae and issues with long term coral survival. However. if you can find a copy of Royal Burger's Zoo Book on Coral Husbandry (There's a PDF file of it but I can't find the link for the whole book at the moment) either chapter 9 or 26 relate the survival of corals in an Austrailian aquarium was just months with a turf scrubber and after it was removed survival extended to years.

It seems in part, we're looking at beneficial or harmful bacterial loads in reef systems. This can be either harmfull shifts in pathogenic microbes, exsessive heterotrophic microbes causing O2 draw down and anoxic conditions that can be on mm scales. One filtering technique that has fallen out of favor that is still refferenced by a few oldtimers is the periodic use of diatom filters. What I have seen is systems that just aren't doing as well as they were (old tank syndrome?) even though there's been no notible changes in equipment, maintenance or parameters. What I have seen in those situations is running a distom filter does help significantly, although it may take several weeks for a significant improvement to be seen. As the only way a diatom filter works is by removing sub micron particles these results do seem to confirm the idea, and some research, that heavy microbial loads are detrimental.
 

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