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MaryHM

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Hey guys-

Steve is still in Mexico, but he asked me to forward this letter that he sent to the AMDA members to you

Hello folks,
I hope to be home tomorrow nite and as such will be more responsible.
I sent a message the other day that I just found out did not go thru. The
internet cafe service here is really good in the tourist areas but not where I'm
at.
This collecting trip has been the most interesting of the year as the
politics of collecting tropicals in Mexico has heated up and I'm more on the hot
seat than usual trying to defend an industry that needs to change a great deal.
The crimes of which the industry is accused of down here are largely true. As an
honest consultant I find I can't knee jerk lie about my industrys terrible track
record in a number of countries but can vigorously defend clean fish collecting
as both sustainable and very beneficial for poor fisherfolk.
Defending the potential to behave better and be our better selves is
the best I can say about the trade as a whole. I mean really...how on earth can
one defend a trade knowingly based on killing off its own resourse base with
cyanide in its very epicenter of diversity? Only a liar could do that. The
Mexico example must lead the way and show the Gringos how to do it clean, proper
and sustainable as we have been in the same village for over 20 years now.
Sustainability,quotas, research and surveys, social benefit, better
pay for poor fisherman and government involvement are all catch words this last
week down here. Its like theres no break from the subject matter
anymore...either here or up there. So I'll be home tomorrow nite still on topic
and ready to get back to business.
I think AMDA can offer much to breakthru some impasses and look forward
to the challenge of doing so.
Sincerely, Steve Robinson
 

ERIfish

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Mitch,

I could not, in good conscience, join or be involved in any organization of which Steve Robinson has any part whatsoever.

Rob.
 

MaryHM

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I don't want anyone to get into any personal stuff here. Take it to email if it's going to get ugly.
 

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Mary,
I didn't say anything... and am way too mature to bicker in public with an esteemed member of the loyal opposition.
Public debate on the issues however is another story...I'd love too! That is if the gentleman in question has the courage of conviction.

Steve
 

ERIfish

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Ladies and Gents,

As with so many other threads on so many other boards, this one appears about ready to slip into that kindergardenesque area of flame throwing and bickering. I won't be lured into that and, instead, will opt to defer to Mary's words of warning.

I expressed my opinion regarding the newly annointed president of AMDA and will leave it at that........period. It amuses me to be branded a member of some mysterious "opposition". I had not realized until now that selling marine livestock to the trade involved political polarization, but my naivetee stands humbled by the wisdom and vast experience of the esteemed "el Presidente". As for having courage of conviction, I would be more than glad to stand toe to toe with you, Steve, and debate any issue of moral or ethical fiber ........... if you get my drift!!!!

Sincerely and finally,

Rob.
 

Bill2

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Yes I read that and meant to say someting but got busy. Now how about them cyanide caught fish!!!!
 

dizzy

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Steve,
At least you didn't get the thread locked. I think Mary and I actually like each other for the most part.
 

ERIfish

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Steve,

You are not going to bait me into one of your pseudo-intellectual jousts either on this thread or on any other. You know NOTHING about my business or what I am doing to contribute to this industry. You don't know where I buy my fish and you DEFINITELY don't want to debate this subject in public with me. Remember Steve, I know you from 10 years ago when you were a "handcaught only" wholesaler in LA.........nuff sed!!!!

Rob.
 

Bill2

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I chaistized Steve now I must do the same for you Rob. No personal attacks or business attacks will be tolerated by anyone. This forum is to discuss industry reform issues not who has the best fish:) If you have information that is contrary to the information presented here by Steve or anyone by all means post it. I welcome differing opinions for to make an educated decision you must know both sides.
 

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