Impact of Finding Nemo on number of clownfish imported/sold?
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I concur. Every kid that comes into my place yells "There's NEMO & DORY!" when they see my show tank ... I've had my percs in that tank since I opened, 18 months ago, and the pair of blue tangs were in my care for the last 14 months while their owner was away, and then decided to sell her tank - sheer coinkidink to have those in my tank while that movie is out... but I've not had a soul come in solely to purchase a tank/setup for their own "Nemo". Besides, if they did, they would probably leave with a book or two, and not a tank - at least not right away 
Ocellaris have always been the most popular clowns - I carry several species, but always sell out of the Ocellaris before any others.
Jenn
Ocellaris have always been the most popular clowns - I carry several species, but always sell out of the Ocellaris before any others.
Jenn
hi, this is my first post here.
I am in the hobby but not in the industry.
but i would like to share the info i got here in Hong Kong.
according to a newspapers's article on 7 Aug.
when "Finding Nemo " was showing in the cinemas,
the sales volume of one interviewed fish shop is :
Clownfish(Nemo) 300-500/week
Bue Tang(Dory) 150/week
Moorish idol 100/week
the average increase rate of fish stock: +20%
this is just a figure from one fish shop.
within that period of time, and even up until now,
i always hear that kids and parents talking about nemo and dory at the fish shops.
some even don't know they are marine fish.
many of them bought some pair s home just for fun
cos the price of the clownfish and blue tang are so cheap here.
i think many more nemos and dorys suffer because of the movie
although the original theme of the movie is try to educate people to protect the lovely fishes.
I am in the hobby but not in the industry.
but i would like to share the info i got here in Hong Kong.
according to a newspapers's article on 7 Aug.
when "Finding Nemo " was showing in the cinemas,
the sales volume of one interviewed fish shop is :
Clownfish(Nemo) 300-500/week
Bue Tang(Dory) 150/week
Moorish idol 100/week
the average increase rate of fish stock: +20%
this is just a figure from one fish shop.
within that period of time, and even up until now,
i always hear that kids and parents talking about nemo and dory at the fish shops.
some even don't know they are marine fish.
many of them bought some pair s home just for fun
cos the price of the clownfish and blue tang are so cheap here.
i think many more nemos and dorys suffer because of the movie
although the original theme of the movie is try to educate people to protect the lovely fishes.
{Mental note} open a store in Hong Kong next week ! I know of no store in the USA that sells those numbers a week........thats amazing......thats $15,000 a week in three fish types!!! What is the selling price of those three fish in Hong Kong? Thanks
yes, i think the price is too low too and may not be good to the fish and the coral reef.
some non-aquarist would have been attracted by the cheap price and impulsively buy the fish just for fun.
the FS mentioned above is among the busiest in Hong Kong.
the store is always crowded with consumers especially on holidays.
there are a dozens of small tanks containing different fished and every one can catch the fish with a net on their own.
and take the fish to the sales man for the payment.
it just like a fish supermarket altought tha shop is not very large.
so i am not suprised by the sales volume figure mentioned.
there has been a lot of debates on the local forums ,discussing wether the fishes are cyanide fishes from PI.
the shop will tell you where the fish come from.
but wether they are caught with cyanide, no one knows.
althoguh there are laws and policy(e.g:certificates to prove the fish is free from cyanide) to prohibit destructive fish catching in PI,
ppl still don't trust the fish is all 100% free from cyanide .
most of the newbies experience high mortal rate as expected.
but many experienced aquarists can keep the PI fish healthy for a long time.
some non-aquarist would have been attracted by the cheap price and impulsively buy the fish just for fun.
the FS mentioned above is among the busiest in Hong Kong.
the store is always crowded with consumers especially on holidays.
there are a dozens of small tanks containing different fished and every one can catch the fish with a net on their own.
and take the fish to the sales man for the payment.
it just like a fish supermarket altought tha shop is not very large.
so i am not suprised by the sales volume figure mentioned.
there has been a lot of debates on the local forums ,discussing wether the fishes are cyanide fishes from PI.
the shop will tell you where the fish come from.
but wether they are caught with cyanide, no one knows.
althoguh there are laws and policy(e.g:certificates to prove the fish is free from cyanide) to prohibit destructive fish catching in PI,
ppl still don't trust the fish is all 100% free from cyanide .
most of the newbies experience high mortal rate as expected.
but many experienced aquarists can keep the PI fish healthy for a long time.
I find it curious that people are surprised at the cheapness of the Hong Kong fish. Pop Quiz: What makes up the majority of cost in a fish?? Why freight of course!! Do you think freight is cheaper from Manila to LA or from Manila to Hong Kong. How long is that flight? An hour and a half tops?
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Hong Kong certificates to 'prove' the fish are cyanide free?
We get 'health certificates' in Mexcio to prove that the fish are...well healthy and not carrying disease organisms to infect oranges, chickens and cattle. They cost $20. and are handed over immediately with payment by a clerk. Of course there is no 'checking, verification or lab-coats around. Its just a money thing.
Hong Kong...the center of the world trade in cyanide food fish provides certificates for aquarium fish...How cute. Surely they must also print up certificates for napoleon wrasses and panther grouper brood stocks that their shameless trade is decimating.
Just goes to show ya...there is no scam, sin, or evil that goes unrewarded and covered up by paper validation these days.
Steve
We get 'health certificates' in Mexcio to prove that the fish are...well healthy and not carrying disease organisms to infect oranges, chickens and cattle. They cost $20. and are handed over immediately with payment by a clerk. Of course there is no 'checking, verification or lab-coats around. Its just a money thing.
Hong Kong...the center of the world trade in cyanide food fish provides certificates for aquarium fish...How cute. Surely they must also print up certificates for napoleon wrasses and panther grouper brood stocks that their shameless trade is decimating.
Just goes to show ya...there is no scam, sin, or evil that goes unrewarded and covered up by paper validation these days.
Steve
the "certificate" i mentioned above is not issued in HK, since there no ornamental fish catching business in HK.
what i meant is the "cert"in PI.
this is an essay written by Mary Middlebrook:
http://www.reefsource.com/MSI%20Articles/cyanide.htm
the article makes a point that the "cert" issued by the MAC(Marine Aquarium Coucil) is just a series of paperworks, no actual CDT(cyanide detection test)was taken.
The official said that they will carry out CDT later, but i have no further infomation.
i read other internet articles saying that the PMP(Filipino for the Federation of Aquarium Fish Gatherers of the Philippines, Inc.),
which is an organisation aiming to train the fishermen to use evirnoment friendly methods to collect fish, such as using fence netting.
their certificate seems to be more reliable than those issued by the
MAC because PMP was originally assisted by
Ocean Voice International and
International Marinelife Alliance .
they have more than one thousand members now and some of them became "instructors" in indonesia, teaching the collectors to use environment freindly methods.
i don't know what is the situation now in PI.
as i am just a amature hobbist who also concerns the destructive influence in coral reefs cause by the aquarium hobby.
a few months ago, someone visited the fishermen in PI and he told me that the fishermen said that half of the fish collectors have abandon using cyanide.
(there are about 2500 fish collectors in PI)
that's all i know from reading the internet and veiwing some documentary videos.
regarding the cyanide food fish trading in HK,
i haven't heard of of any news about cyanide food fish in HK, as least for the past few years.
there were ocassionally, some news about ciguatoxin found in the napoleaon wrasse and groupers.
and ciguatoxin is a result of natural toxin accumulated in the fish body as a result of food chain.
so ppl are advised not to eat large size coral food fish in order to avoid take in the toxin.
destructive fishing methods are prohibited in HK, and there is no "certificated" issued by any bodies.
i am not in the fishery industry, so i am not sure whether laws are enforced effectively, since most of the mass fishing is carried out of HK territories.
however, fishermen from mainland China seem to use dynamite more often. dynamites are often found when some fish boat from mainland China were searhed for inspection.
that's all know about the cyanide fishing.
i hope someone will correct me if i am wrong.
what i meant is the "cert"in PI.
this is an essay written by Mary Middlebrook:
http://www.reefsource.com/MSI%20Articles/cyanide.htm
the article makes a point that the "cert" issued by the MAC(Marine Aquarium Coucil) is just a series of paperworks, no actual CDT(cyanide detection test)was taken.
The official said that they will carry out CDT later, but i have no further infomation.
i read other internet articles saying that the PMP(Filipino for the Federation of Aquarium Fish Gatherers of the Philippines, Inc.),
which is an organisation aiming to train the fishermen to use evirnoment friendly methods to collect fish, such as using fence netting.
their certificate seems to be more reliable than those issued by the
MAC because PMP was originally assisted by
Ocean Voice International and
International Marinelife Alliance .
they have more than one thousand members now and some of them became "instructors" in indonesia, teaching the collectors to use environment freindly methods.
i don't know what is the situation now in PI.
as i am just a amature hobbist who also concerns the destructive influence in coral reefs cause by the aquarium hobby.
a few months ago, someone visited the fishermen in PI and he told me that the fishermen said that half of the fish collectors have abandon using cyanide.
(there are about 2500 fish collectors in PI)
that's all i know from reading the internet and veiwing some documentary videos.
regarding the cyanide food fish trading in HK,
i haven't heard of of any news about cyanide food fish in HK, as least for the past few years.
there were ocassionally, some news about ciguatoxin found in the napoleaon wrasse and groupers.
and ciguatoxin is a result of natural toxin accumulated in the fish body as a result of food chain.
so ppl are advised not to eat large size coral food fish in order to avoid take in the toxin.
destructive fishing methods are prohibited in HK, and there is no "certificated" issued by any bodies.
i am not in the fishery industry, so i am not sure whether laws are enforced effectively, since most of the mass fishing is carried out of HK territories.
however, fishermen from mainland China seem to use dynamite more often. dynamites are often found when some fish boat from mainland China were searhed for inspection.
that's all know about the cyanide fishing.
i hope someone will correct me if i am wrong.
Aquasim.
PMP as such is not operating since late 1999. However, many of the fishers members of that association are still using nets instead of cyanide.. PMP didn't issue any kind of certificate.
There has been progress in the Philippines in the last years, no as we wish but some positive has been done. There are more collectors in the Philippines using cyanide to collect fish for the aquarium trade. One thing is clear, there is the lack of willingness and commitment from the part of the industry(PI and overseas) and the central government in the Philippines to tackle the problem.
Jaime
PMP as such is not operating since late 1999. However, many of the fishers members of that association are still using nets instead of cyanide.. PMP didn't issue any kind of certificate.
There has been progress in the Philippines in the last years, no as we wish but some positive has been done. There are more collectors in the Philippines using cyanide to collect fish for the aquarium trade. One thing is clear, there is the lack of willingness and commitment from the part of the industry(PI and overseas) and the central government in the Philippines to tackle the problem.
Jaime
Jaime
thanks for your infomation :wink:
recently, there is a debate in hk aquarist circle on the difference between fishstock from U.S. and Brazil.
the price from u.s. shipment is much higher than that from brazil.
since the fishes (mostly angelfish)all come from carribean sea.(i guess)
is there any reasons for the price difference, besides the cost the manpower? like the collecting methods?
just curious to know.
thanks for your infomation :wink:
recently, there is a debate in hk aquarist circle on the difference between fishstock from U.S. and Brazil.
the price from u.s. shipment is much higher than that from brazil.
since the fishes (mostly angelfish)all come from carribean sea.(i guess)
is there any reasons for the price difference, besides the cost the manpower? like the collecting methods?
just curious to know.
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