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Pro-Whaling Nations Win


Last week, in St. Kitts and Nevis, at its annual meeting, the International Whaling Commission (IWC) voted (33 in favor, 32 against and one abstention) to adopt a non-binding declaration that supports the pro-whaling agenda and states that the IWC will collapse unless whaling resumes.

For the first time since the 1970s, the IWC is under the control of the pro-whaling countries. The list of countries voting in favor of overturning the moratorium includes African, Caribbean and Pacific nations with minimal whaling interests. Several international commentators have noted that Japan has spent millions in grant aid for fisheries development in some countries, implying that votes are being bought but this allegation is strongly denied by the Japanese who point to their desire to see managed whaling based on scientific knowledge. Pro-whaling nations insist that a limited return to commercial hunting is possible; stocks of some species are high enough, they maintain, charging that the IWC has become an organization dedicated to preventing whaling, contrary to its purpose. Currently, Norway ignores the ban on commercial whaling and Iceland also kills a number of whales. The United States allows indigenous hunters to take a few whales each year for sustenance and cultural purposes.

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The point of the post;
Read back to the part ...." the IWC will collapse unless whaling resumes." :roll: :roll:
As in so many institutional eco movements today...the perpetuation of the self is far more priorituized then the perpetuation of the whales claimed to being fought for.
Steve
The greatest success of a movement is to put itself out of business, is it not!
 

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I agree 100%

I dont feel sympathy for them until I can walk off any random beach here off the mostly desolate coast of Southern California here and be able to see a whale.

Then I might consider whaling something that can be done again.

:p
 

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FISHERIES AGENCY
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY AND FISHERIES, GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN



MEDIA RELEASE
18 June 2006 – St Kitts and Nevis

WHALING COMMISSION CONDEMNS MORATORIUM

In an historic vote, the International Whaling Commission today confirmed the moratorium on commercial whaling was no longer necessary and that conservation and management measures allowing for controlled and sustainable whaling must be implemented to keep the organisation relevant.
The St Kitts and Nevis Declaration was presented by the host Government and passed by the majority of members at the IWC. The declaration reiterates the organization has failed to meet its obligations under the terms of the International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling (ICRW).

Japan’s Commissioner, Mr Minoru Morimoto, congratulated the Government of St Kitts and Nevis on achieving an historic victory.

“Japan congratulates the Government of St Kitts and Nevis on this win. The declaration provides added weight to Japan’s proposal to normalize the IWC and bring it back to its original function of managing and regulating sustainable commercial whaling,” he said.

“This is but one vote. While it is a victory, the IWC remains polarized and unable to make significant resource management decisions because they require a 75 percent majority.”

“However, the St Kitts declaration adds weight to our view that this organisation needs to be reformed and brought back on track to its original mandate. This is not the end, it is the beginning. It is the beginning of securing the IWC as a resource management organization again.”

Mr Morimoto said there are IWC member nations who want to talk and move through the current political impasse. “We issue an invitation to join the normalization process.
Let’s work together to bring the IWC back on track to deliver sustainable whaling,” Mr Morimoto said.

For more information, contact Japan Delegation media adviser
Glenn Inwood +1 869 764 4301
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PS..Glenn....come home.
"Sustainable whaling...?" Really? :roll:
Can you not find another eco-consulting job?

And that my friends ruins another previously significant word.
Sustainable has to now be spoken with reference to the P.R. term sustainable or the scientific one.
Steve
 
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fishinchick":3mwacof8 said:
I agree 100%

I dont feel sympathy for them until I can walk off any random beach here off the mostly desolate coast of Southern California here and be able to see a whale.

Then I might consider whaling something that can be done again.

:p
You don't see them on their migration anymore?? - I've only ever made one trip up 1 (roughly 20 years ago) and spotted a pair about 5 miles out just south of Hearst.

Aren't they usually quite a ways off shore farther south anyway?
 
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GratefulDiver":7n8pktsl said:
fishinchick":7n8pktsl said:
I agree 100%

I dont feel sympathy for them until I can walk off any random beach here off the mostly desolate coast of Southern California here and be able to see a whale.

Then I might consider whaling something that can be done again.

:p
You don't see them on their migration anymore?? - I've only ever made one trip up 1 (roughly 20 years ago) and spotted a pair about 5 miles out just south of Hearst.

Aren't they usually quite a ways off shore farther south anyway?

From what I've been told, not traditionally. Yup, 20 years ago we saw plenty, but not as many now ;)
 
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finally, some environmental damage not caused by the US.
 

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GratefulDiver":twzm27r8 said:
fishinchick":twzm27r8 said:
I agree 100%

I dont feel sympathy for them until I can walk off any random beach here off the mostly desolate coast of Southern California here and be able to see a whale.
Then I might consider whaling something that can be done again.

:p
You don't see them on their migration anymore?? - I've only ever made one trip up 1 (roughly 20 years ago) and spotted a pair about 5 miles out just south of Hearst.

Aren't they usually quite a ways off shore farther south anyway?


From 1996 - 2003 I owned a sailboat and spent a large amount of weekends between the main land and Catalina. I also did a lot of long distance sail races including Newport/Ensenada. In that time I have never seen a whale of any kind.
For those of you that don't know, Catalina Island is about 25 miles off the coast of Calif. (Long Beach area). I've also been to Santa Barbara Island which is some 49 miles from Long Beach, Calif. They say that very occasionally there would be whales but there arent many of them so you don't see them much.

You'd think a group of individual animals that big would be kinda ..... obvious.

I have seen a few dolphins and lots of sealions and got to even swim with them which was a little nerve wracking the first time or two. Occasionally I'd even see a shark of some type swimming along thru the kelp or below the boat or just beneath the surface. Never whales.

My X reported seeing a whale when going fishing with a buddy of his - right off the coast in Long Beach about 3 (?) miles out near a fishing area called Horse Shoe Kelp. That's been it.
I've been out on the pacific a lot. I was honestly surprised at how desolate it actually was. I expected seeing a little more going on.

The only whales I've seen were at Sea World ...


aint he cute.
 
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8O

Wow.. - I'm feeling both old and lucky at the same time now.

I'm also starting to remember my grandmother telling me how I'm decended from whalers..

heh - Maybe something genetic enabled me to spot those sprays from the back seat of a car winding up Hwy 1..? :lol:
 

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naesco will be able to fix this problem.

He will "get right on it" so have no fear. He will get it fixed. Huge announcement on whaling coming soon from Canada. :roll:
 

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I have a sailboat that I spend many weekends on, on the return from my first trip to Catalina about 4 years ago, I had the remarkable experience about midway between the island and LA Harbor of looking down and seeing that a gray whale was following my boat just below the keel.

It was absolutely amazing to see one that close. It just stayed with the boat for about a minute then leisurely turned south and headed off. The eye with which it checked me out was bigger than my hand and I swear it waved a fin at me as it swam off towards Mexico. I have seen many of them in Alaska and the occasional blow on my runs to San Clemente I still hope to see one breech someday. Definitely my favorite sea creature.

These gentle and intelligent creatures should never be hunted.

JMHO
 

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I have been in the water with finbacks and greys...and there is nothing scary about it at all. They eyeball you...and move on.

Its a borderline sentient being by all accounts.
If it had an oposable thumb, who knows what it may have become.
Intelligence evolves thru differing phylogenies of creatures, not just the hominids.

Steve
 

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