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naesco":3tdc7n5w said:
Doesn't anyone realize that Fidel Castro set his people free from American capitalistic domination. He had his peoples full support when he took power and when he twarted the invasion.

Wow! That has to be one of the most ignorant posts I have ever read. 8O
 
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naesco":19i8ks66 said:
It is sad to note that there are more posters on this thread than there is on the most important thread of Dr. Rubec and no one has added any worthy comment.

Maybe not many of us are scientists and able to add content that the thread deserves, and also, we've all heard and see it before ;)

naesco":19i8ks66 said:
Doesn't anyone realize that Fidel Castro set his people free from American capitalistic domination. He had his peoples full support when he took power and when he twarted the invasion.

Do you mind not talking politics in this forum? After all, it is against the UA isn't it? Of course I could fire back on your comment, but that kind of stuff is SUMP material.
 
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naesco":33nmvkq3 said:
It is sad to note that there are more posters on this thread than there is on the most important thread of Dr. Rubec and no one has added any worthy comment.

Doesn't anyone realize that Fidel Castro set his people free from American capitalistic domination. He had his peoples full support when he took power and when he twarted the invasion.

smokescreen!
 
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Guess it's not against the UA of this board, I was thinking of RC :)

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Yup too personal and too political.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
If someone does have contacts PM me
Thanks
Wayne Ryan
 
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naesco":2eg0lr30 said:
Yup too personal and too political.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Thanks
Wayne Ryan

You knew exactly what you where doing when you typed that Wayne. I can not accept your apology :)
 

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So I got a contact and will meet him if all pans out. I will let you know when I return.

Who here would be interested in importing cyanide free fish and aqua-cultured coral from Cuba in the near future?

I know it it against the US law to trade with the enemy :roll: but when the blockade is lifted the business opportunities will be fan=tas=tic.
I do not think it is against the law to prepare oneself and you can even visit Cuba if you have the US government's permission or, fly via Toronto like everyone else does.

Email me if you prefer

Wayne Ryan
 

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Here is my guess.

There will never be a single fish exported to any country as a result of this. You might go to Cuba on vacation and take a few pictures in an attempt to get some attention.

Please. Please prove me wrong. I wish you all the best on your trip.

Warmest regards,
 

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8O

You know, Wayne, I realize it's not illegal to travel to Cuba from Canada - in fact my Mother has been there more than once, as have others of my acquaintance.

While your political comments are more sump fodder than anything, while you're out making all kinds of fishy contacts - take a little stroll beyond the resort and tell me what you see.

When my Mom and others have been there, they usually buy all kinds of goodies at the drugstore and dollar store BACK HOME and give it away to the poorest of the poor outside the gates of the resort. Dinky toys, pencils (I gave a friend a whole box of golf pencils to give away - give a kid a regular pencil and his teacher will break it in half and share it with another child).

When you make ignorant comments about Castro "freeing" his people - I QUADRUPLE DOG DARE YOU to make that statement on any street corner in Little Havana in Miami. In fact I'd pay good money to watch you do that!

Anyway - even if we were naive enough to assume that you were attempting some sort of legitimate venture here - I don't even know if this scenario would be legal - but presumably you'd have to import from Cuba to Canada, then export back to the US (again with a Cuban point of origin even that might not be legal - but I'm sure there are ways *around* that)... Do you think that's good for the fish to have them shuttled north then south again?

After all, Wayne, it's all about what's good for the critters, right? I'm sure the cost of stuff from Cuba would be DIRT cheap... and we wouldn't want to exploit anything or anyone, right?

It is my opinion that Wayne is simply blowing smoke again - this time from a Cuban cigar.

Jenn
 

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Staying away from the political comments, I would like to awaken all of you "industry" movers and shakers that Cuba has been exporting marine fish and invertebrates for some time now. Their customers are Asia, Europe ,and yes, Canada. Over the past couple of years they have constructed and developed a modern holding and shipping facility,and are in the process of setting up another one in another part of the island. This is a joint Cuba-Spanish operation.

I doubt that they will show much interest in developing anything with Naesco, as they are well funded and have the contacts in Canada that they want. If he gets to meet them and see their operation,he will be pleased with their "eco-friendly"approach. There may be a possibility that they would sell to one of the British Columbia wholesalers, but the airline connections to there from Cuba aren't great.

All exports from Cuba would have to be for Canadian consumption only as the country of origin docs. must accompany any shipment into the USA---and Canada does not produce many Queen angels. I guess that they could go to Jamaica and have a Jamaican exporter produce paperwork-that is how much of the Cuban goods get into the USA, but that will not happen.

And finally, you should know that this thread will be well read (but not responded to) by the Cuban-Spanish exporter and much of his staff. They stay current with the posts on this and many other sites.

Good luck Naesco,as another Canadian and to show that we have sarcastic thoughts up here too, I am happy that Caterham is "southern by the grace of god"and that Jenn left Canada to go south.
 

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Thanks for the current information ontfish.

I am really happy to see that the industry is thriving and doing well.

It was not my intention to set up an import business from Cuba for myself but facilitate and assist the industry in developing and industry.
As that has been accomplished no need for further input from me.
If you would like to email me the name and address of the facility. I would like to visit same whilst in Cuba.

Yes I will be bringing boxes and boxes of stuff for the Cuban children donated by friends and business aquaintenance here.

Yes, the children suffer but not from their Government. They suffer as a result of the inhumane US embargo on Cuba.


Wayne Ryan
 

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Ontfish on Cuba

Can you answer a few questions on the marine industry in Cuba.

Do they use cyanide or other drugs to catch fish or is it net caught.

Have they established an aqua culture industry or all all the corals available wild.

What sort of shipping procedure do they follow.

It would be nice to see some Cuban industry people post here in Spanish if necessary as many Americans are bi-lingual.

Thank you
Wayne Ryan
 

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Hey Ontfish,

Are they making marine collection a priority now? Years ago when I contacted them they seemed to be concentrating on their freshwater.
 

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naesco":2jvk7u8j said:
Thanks for the current information ontfish.

Yes, the children suffer but not from their Government. They suffer as a result of the inhumane US embargo on Cuba.


Wayne Ryan

Wayne,
I usually refrain from this constant baiting that you do, but. You obviously you do not know or have talked to any Cubans outside of Cuba. :roll:

I have many friends that would show you the error of your ways.
 
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treeman":3lhjaosa said:
naesco":3lhjaosa said:
Thanks for the current information ontfish.

Yes, the children suffer but not from their Government. They suffer as a result of the inhumane US embargo on Cuba.


Wayne Ryan

Wayne,
I usually refrain from this constant baiting that you do, but. You obviously you do not know or have talked to any Cubans outside of Cuba. :roll:

I have many friends that would show you the error of your ways.

Most Cubans in Cuba would refute his statement in private one on one talks too.
 

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I've met a lot of Cubans as well, and they all have told me that they absolutely despise Castro. Just bringing up the word usually brings a look of disgust across their face. If you don't believe me, try going to Miami and walking the streets yelling "Castro is Great". See where that gets you.
 

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Gentlemen you need to educate yourself about the history of Cuba starting with the Spanish-Cuban-American War from a neutral British text.
The reason I suggest a British history text is that I have read the American history text book offered to US students and, lets put it this way, the War of 1812 with Canada is historically incorrect.
 

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Hopefully there are a few SNL fans here, and that quote is taken in the tongue-in-cheek context it was intended.

The fact of the matter, however, is that two makeshift rafts have washed up on our local (E. central FL) beaches in as many weeks. These are historically Cuban refugees, though admittedly sometimes Haitiian, and the sad part is that the seas have been extremely rough. The likelyhood is that these folks never made it to US soil and drowned.

If things are so great in Castros Cuba, why is there such a desire to leave and venture with such high risk to the United Stated? I would rule out Disney World.
 
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naesco":3d948gos said:
Gentlemen you need to educate yourself about the history of Cuba starting with the Spanish-Cuban-American War from a neutral British text.
The reason I suggest a British history text is that I have read the American history text book offered to US students and, lets put it this way, the War of 1812 with Canada is historically incorrect.

Funny I thought the war of 1812 was against Great Britain. 8O
 

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