Blue Ring

[swsaltwater]

Hi, Anyone know what wholesalers are bringing in Blue Ring octopusses? I am in need of one for a display tank I setup for octopus and the main 104th st wholesalers do not seem to want to bring in for fears of venom. I am sure someone out there is importing them.

 

[Anonymous]

Man I hope this is a joke.

 

[swsaltwater]

unfortunately not, I had a lot of wholesalers back out, came close a few times but the big bosses seem to veto my sales reps. No one is willing to bring one in so far, have a promising lead now though.

 

[Anonymous]

unfortunately not, I had a lot of wholesalers back out, came close a few times but the big bosses seem to veto my sales reps.

Meaning they're smarter than you.

 

[GTR1]

You mean to tell me they won't even do it for money?

There is hope now I see.

SteveU

 

[swsaltwater]

Blue rings are a great species to keep for the advanced hobbyist. I would not sell one, it is for my own research.

 

[Anonymous]

Blue rings are a great species to keep for the advanced hobbyist. I would not sell one, it is for my own research.

I have to strongly disagree. Plenty of people researching them out there. Leave it to them.

 

[naesco]

Listen up the blue ring will kill you if it bites you, or your nieces, nefews, kids, grandkids or your neighbours kids.

 

[swsaltwater]

Wow I never knew that whew thanks for the heads up on the poision..../sarcasm

This is why you should place it in a secure tank and not pet it like a dog........Blue rings were fairly common in the early days of the hobby
(they use to hand feed em and I am sure this is how they learned of the deadly venom).

People that are allergic can die from lionfish or stonefish stings yet they are sold even to kids under 18 at some shops. (I would actually ask for a parents ok)

I have found cone snails in live rock, should we ban live rock? Cone snails make cool nano tank critters as well, simply fasinating watching them eat. I also find it funny one wholesaler refused to import a blue ring but has deadly cone snails for sale in his facility. I have seen highly venomous urchins in LA as well. If you are scared to own one then don't simple as that.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow I never knew that whew thanks for the heads up on the poision..../sarcasm

This is why you should place it in a secure tank and not pet it like a dog........Blue rings were fairly common in the early days of the hobby
(they use to hand feed em and I am sure this is how they learned of the deadly venom).

People that are allergic can die from lionfish or stonefish stings yet they are sold even to kids under 18 at some shops. (I would actually ask for a parents ok)

I have found cone snails in live rock, should we ban live rock? Cone snails make cool nano tank critters as well, simply fasinating watching them eat. I also find it funny one wholesaler refused to import a blue ring but has deadly cone snails for sale in his facility. I have seen highly venomous urchins in LA as well. If you are scared to own one then don't simple as that.

I don't think stonefish or cone snails should be sold either. I've never heard of a human fatality from a sea urchin or lionfish. Where did you hear this?

 

[Anonymous]

FWIW, there are no known deaths due to blue ring bites in captivity.
There are really very few confirmed deaths attributed to blue rings in the wild as well.

This doesn't mean that I think everyone should run out and keep one, or that the potential for death isn't inherent in the animal, but it does make me think that the fear is a little like shark attack syndrome. Your family is much more likely to be killed on a Sunday drive than from a blue ring bite, but no one seems to think you shouldn't take your family on a Sunday drive.

IMO, most people shouldn't keep blue rings, or any ceph for that matter.

I wish there was some sort of control regarding who got rare/dangerous animals in our hobby, but such a thing doesn't seem likely given the nature of collecting and it frustrates me to no end.

 

[Anonymous]

FWIW, there are no known deaths due to blue ring bites in captivity.
There are really very few confirmed deaths attributed to blue rings in the wild as well.

This doesn't mean that I think everyone should run out and keep one, or that the potential for death isn't inherent in the animal, but it does make me think that the fear is a little like shark attack syndrome. Your family is much more likely to be killed on a Sunday drive than from a blue ring bite, but no one seems to think you shouldn't take your family on a Sunday drive.

IMO, most people shouldn't keep blue rings, or any ceph for that matter.

I wish there was some sort of control regarding who got rare/dangerous animals in our hobby, but such a thing doesn't seem likely given the nature of collecting and it frustrates me to no end.

I knew somebody would pull out the Sunday drive analogy, I just didn't think it would be you!

I hope that the stigma associated with keeping animals like this prevents any deaths from ever occurring in the first place. The last thing the hobby needs is that kind of attention.

 

[Anonymous]

Aww, that was more in response to naesco's everyone you know will die! post. That kind of reactionary post makes me a little nutty.

I think a zoanthid toxin analogy is more better.

FWIW, I think I am pretty 'qualified' to keep blue rings, yet I never have had the desire to do so.

 

[Anonymous]

But if you did keep one Thales, people would die, right?

How's that go, Righty died due to Lefty's Blue Ring?

I've handled more then a handfull of BR's. Honestly I don't see the appeal either. They're small, shy and have a super short natural lifespan. They're like growing corn in a way, they only last a season.

 

[Robwsup]

I've seen them on several lists, not that they should be there.

 

[pyrrhus]

Rob, I was able to bring in a blue-ring a few months back through my jobber, you might want to try one of them.

 

[naesco]

Aww, that was more in response to naesco's everyone you know will die! post. That kind of reactionary post makes me a little nutty.

I think a zoanthid toxin analogy is more better.

FWIW, I think I am pretty 'qualified' to keep blue rings, yet I never have had the desire to do so.

You miss the point, as you often do and I say so with respect.

If the poster is prepared to take the risk in owning one he should consider that there may be others who attend his home and want to touch that cute poka dot animal sitting in the water or helping him get out.

My post is far from being reactionary it is in fact cautionary. You owe me an apology.

 

[Anonymous]

Aww, that was more in response to naesco's everyone you know will die! post. That kind of reactionary post makes me a little nutty.

I think a zoanthid toxin analogy is more better.

FWIW, I think I am pretty 'qualified' to keep blue rings, yet I never have had the desire to do so.

You miss the point, as you often do and I say so with respect.

If the poster is prepared to take the risk in owning one he should consider that there may be others who attend his home and want to touch that cute poka dot animal sitting in the water or helping him get out.

My post is far from being reactionary it is in fact cautionary. You owe me an apology.

The way your post was worded led me to find it not only reactionary, but also inflammatory, assumptive and condescending. Your intent may have been cautionary, friendly and endearing, but IMO, the way you choose to word your original post wasn't. If you had originally posted the second paragraph above, I would have had a much different reaction to what you actually posted:

Listen up the blue ring will kill you if it bites you, or your nieces, nefews, kids, grandkids or your neighbours kids.

 

[Anonymous]

Not only that, but Rob did say the tank would be seured, hence no kid or anybody releasing the animal from it's home as Neasco injects.

 

[Anonymous]

nice pun!