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I came here because I saw that post as well.

blue tang were nearly impossible to tank breed, well... The Mystic Reef is proud to have one of the first tank raised

Isn't there a difference between tank breed and tank raised? That statement though could just be a language issue.

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Raskal311":39bqnrgi said:
So tank raised could mean wild caught and raised in a tank for a period of time?

Sorry, the industry must have a definition but I'm not sure what it is.

As a hobbyist I don't think of tank raised and tank breed being the same.

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Tank bred - the animals lifecycle has been closed in captivity. Adults breed, and babies raised.

Tank raised - egg, larve or juvies were caught in the wild and raised in tanks.
 

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So someone could technically catch a few small blue tangs hold them for a non specified period of time and export them as tank raised?
 
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Not unless they where really small juvis, or eggs/larvea :) We're not talking nabbing some large juvi, we're talking paper thin wafes :)
 
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Raskal311":3dsei7et said:
So someone could technically catch a few small blue tangs hold them for a non specified period of time and export them as tank raised?

Sure. They would be weenies, but sure. We see all kinds of stuff like that in the industry already.
 
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We do? Can you point to another case of exporters calling fish tank raised that is not? FWIW I can't. Everyone I have run across has been legit :)

We used to call tank bred wild as no one would pay the premium for captive bred. boy have times slightly changed :)
 

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GreshamH":1krk13lg said:
We do? Can you point to another case of exporters calling fish tank raised that is not? FWIW I can't. Everyone I have run across has been legit :)

We used to call tank bred wild as no one would pay the premium for captive bred. boy have times slightly changed :)

So which do you think is happening in this case?


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Haven't read the thread, not into forum jumping right now. I'll check it later :)
 

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C-Quest in the pre-hurricane days sold "tank raised" blue tangs that were supposedly "larval raised" from wild collection.
 
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tank bred (captive bred, settled out and raised to a marketable size) and on the market, now that I don't believe.
 
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GreshamH":kx9acj1v said:
We do? Can you point to another case of exporters calling fish tank raised that is not? FWIW I can't. Everyone I have run across has been legit :)

Not exporters! :D

We used to call tank bred wild as no one would pay the premium for captive bred. boy have times slightly changed :)

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I was the guy at C-Quest doing what we called "tank raised" blue tangs. They were caught at a very small size (under 1/2 inch in most cases and almost see through, a grey / clear color) in the Solomons and they shipped to C-Quest. We had to have food available constantly for them for the first couple of weeks and then moved to 4 times per day. It would take 4 to 6 months to get to a solid 4 inch medium size. Blue tangs were the most profitable thing that we were doing at C-Quest at the time.

We did not call them Tank Bred, that was reserved for fish that were hatched from eggs and raised. The blue tangs along with several other species of fish were Tank Raised from small post larval fish shipped in from the Solomons. We also did some of this in the Solomons and exported them but could not get enough interest in it to continue the project. The farmers are still doing some coral banded shrimp and blue lobsters this way but no fish anymore.

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Thats too bad Dave. We need someone with deep pockets to fund programs like that because its a good thing to do rather than because they are profitable.
 

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Tom Cabagay is associated with the East Asian Seas and Terrestrial Initiatives (EASTI) a Philippine NGO. He worked with fishers in southern Mindanao to rear post-larval blue tangs to marketable size. He presented a talk on this at the Marine Ornamentals Conference held Febrary 9-12, 2008 in Lake Bueno Vista (near Orlando) Florida.

It was technically and financially viable. The main weakness was that post- larval blue tangs were almost non-existent in the Philippines (because of habitat destruction from the use of cyanide and overfishing). They imported post-larval blue tangs from Indonesia to conduct the study.

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They would eat almost anything. The main food was a finely ground Trout / Salmon food from Ziegler Bros. manufacturing. After a few weeks they could start to eat the regular small size Trout food. With a constant food source they grow incredibly fast for the first few weeks. Ours would be over 1 inch in two weeks. Then growth would slow down some but they still grow incredibly fast, much faster than clown fish growout. Another plus was that they don't mind eating from the bottom of the tanks so you could put excess food in and they would keep eating all day.

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