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wade1

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Just a few from my trip...

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wade1

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This is the outdoor tank:

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The tank above is lit by a combination of both natural sunlight and halides... it was amazing how much brighter it was each time the clouds passed by and the tank lit up.

400W halides just aren't the same.
 

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eGSix - Do you have any pictures of your tank? I know it has to be tough living where you do... its basically a FOWLR as far as I can tell (unless you choose your rock well and get recent settles from corals).

I'm just curious to see what people can create for a tank with such limited resources.
 
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Wow, this is seriously making me want to put in a skylight over my fish room
 

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Skylights over fishrooms = brown corals in temperate climates IME. I would not even attempt it without full illumination for 10-12 hours with halides in addition to the sporadic and shifting sunlight.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, the outdoor pond is from the aquarium on Maui not Oahu. Unless they both have similar aquariums.

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They must both have them... there's a flowthru lagoon outside and then there is the indo-reef tank outside as well (pictured above).

Was certainly nice to get away from here, but seriously depressing to dive Oahu. Human impact has destroyed the place... very few corals there. Decent number of tangs and turtles though (saw yellow, achilles, kole, gemmi(?), naso tangs everywhere).

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wade":2z6qpp8u said:
Skylights over fishrooms = brown corals in temperate climates IME. I would not even attempt it without full illumination for 10-12 hours with halides in addition to the sporadic and shifting sunlight.

Ok out of curiosity why is this? Would this be the same with a greenhouse as well? Sorry I took so long to reply to this but I had another idea to try a 10gallon prop tank with some cheapy corals on my backporch (with heater of course) just to see how fast they grow/change colors compared to say those in the tank. Its a south facing porch and competely enclosed with that translucent (not clear, but light definately gets through) fiberglass and is quite bright in there.

Basically what I'm asking I guess is how important is the light parameters? Obviously sunlight = better than anything we can stick over our aquarium, but is a longer duration of a less bright light more important than a shorter duration of a brighter light? (assuming all things being equal the same amount of "energy" dumped onto the coral).
 

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From what I have seen, it applies to any sunlight powered systems in temperate areas. From seeing Richard Harker's tank over the seasons, it appears that the shift you get in each season (and the length of summer:winter) seems to be the real catch. Harker even has 400W halides running (4 per 20') but they aren't enough except on the surface.

I think that the shift in both duration and spectrum/par is what does it... corals can slowly color up and then you will notice within a week or two that they all suddenly go brown again. Not to say they don't keep growing or stay healthy, but they do not maintain any color. Tropicorium is a great example... nice frags, but they are all brown.

I have even seen greenhouse systems in FL that do not do well (probably as much related to maintenance... ca/alk balance and such), but it would make me hesitate to try it.

I do believe that soft corals would be fine though.
 
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Yah, I think I understand your point. It was emphasized today when I went out to test the temp on the porch at about 4pm, and it was 58 degrees (not the issue) but it was quite dark, this in San Francisco too,so its not terribly north. Heck it's 5:40 now and its completely dark. So perhaps some after hours lighting would be necessary :).

But really the reason I was thinking of it was to try to increase growth rates, on something I might want to bring to a frag swap sometime down the road or something. I don't do SPS really, although I do have 1 SPS frag I won at a raffle and it is browning up a bit (don't know if that's coral growth color or diatom stuff though), and my blue milli is looking more like a pinkish brown milli :)

Oh well thanks for the input, that Tropicorium place.. wow everything is brown. I'll probably still give it a shot since I'm thickheaded that way. I was planning on doing it mostly with softies though (since that's most of what I got).
 

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