I keep noticing that one heater in particular pops on and off. I think i'm going to try removing that one and seeing what happens.
Need some help with my apex heater programming
- Thread starter AquaDan
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I keep noticing that one heater in particular pops on and off. I think i'm going to try removing that one and seeing what happens.
- Location
- Staten Island
Nottick,
The heaters were in outlets 1 and 2 on my EB8. Should they be in another outlet? I was told that it does not matter. Funny thing is that I set those two outlets to ON instead of AUTO. Do you think that might be the culprit? Even so, shouldn't the Apex have shut them off once they hit 78 as they are currently programmed?
- Location
- Staten Island
Ok make sure you program both outlets for a heater and set them to AUTO. When you complete this both should turn on and off together.
I have noticed with some heaters that have their own controller is that they default on powerup to a lower number than you may want IE: When it powers on it defaults to 75 deg when you want to keep your tank at 78 deg. If thats the case if there is a temp probe for the heater, just leave it in open air to trick it so that only the apex will turn off the heat.
If the heater defaults back to where you had set it generally in that case people would set the thermostat on the heater to lets say 81 deg as a failsafe in case the APEX faults.
I have noticed with some heaters that have their own controller is that they default on powerup to a lower number than you may want IE: When it powers on it defaults to 75 deg when you want to keep your tank at 78 deg. If thats the case if there is a temp probe for the heater, just leave it in open air to trick it so that only the apex will turn off the heat.
If the heater defaults back to where you had set it generally in that case people would set the thermostat on the heater to lets say 81 deg as a failsafe in case the APEX faults.
Thanks man but I still have not set up remote access yet. That was going to be my next project probably this weekend. (spent last weekend setting up an auto shut off valve for my ATO)
Like I said in an earlier post, I removed the heaters from the APEX last night before I went to sleep and I've had them plugged into wall outlets since, yet the temp continues to rise. Is there a heater that works best for the Apex? Does anyone have a suggestion on a reliable heater? I got these ViaAqua heaters as a gift and didn't really think it would matter.
I just checked my tank and the heaters continue to pop on and off. Please check out my pics. You can see the one on the left is on and the tank temp is 81 degrees.
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- Location
- Ridgewood, NY
I had the same problem with the same heater. I think it has something to do with the thermostat on the AquaVia. I ended up setting the temperature on the heater to 75-76 degrees and that helped a bit. Hope this helps.
- Location
- Midtown Manhattan
I don't think there's any heaters particularly suited to the Apex but there are better heaters than others. Personally, I would choose a Jager but ll heaters seem to fail eventually.
- Location
- Staten Island
Should never have a problem with it getting too hot in the tank. Apex should cut power before it gets hot. This is an apex issue hands down.
Thanks Sanman. I actually lowered the thermostats to 75 last night before bed and the tank is now at 80.1 and probably rising, lol. This hobby was supposed to be stress reliever from work, lol.
- Location
- Ridgewood, NY
No problem, tell me about it. I have spent way too many nights sleeping on the couch next to the tank because I was afraid something terrible would happen. That and all the nightmares I've had about water leaks, lol. Don't get me going.
Nottick, the heaters have not been connected to the APEX for the last 24 hours... do you still think its an apex issue?
- Location
- Staten Island
Yes i think its the same issue... You had stated you the outlets set as "ON" so the heaters will act the same was as plugged into a standard outlet. You to set them to "AUTO" and have it programmed correctly with the heaters in the programmed outlets and problem solved
- Location
- Staten Island
Why should it be that? What's any different other than temp?
- Location
- Midtown Manhattan
Maybe because the delta between the low and high is small enough to cause the heater to continually switch on and off?
- Location
- Queens, NY
I had a issue with my j?ger heater where it was turning on and off constantly when I was setting it up in my sump in an angle just like the pic. Then I read that the heater has to be mounted vertical and fully submerged not in a angle, once I corrected it stopped its sporadic on,off behavior. I ended up mounting it in my overflow where I had the room and it was out of sight.
Hey Cris, thats an interesting idea. I will definitely look into that that. Thanks very much!
- Location
- Staten Island
I have a .5 degree separation and I don't have this issue.
- Location
- Queens
If your outlet program is what you have set on your first post AND you have the outlets set to Auto from the status page then your Apex with shut those outlets off once the temp probe reads 78.6 and over. Those outlets will not be triggered back on until the temp probe reads below 78.0.
If you have the outlet ON at all times it does not matter how your program your outlet because it will not follow it. The outlet needs to be on AUTO to follow the conditions of the program.
As others have mentioned I would not trust the temp settings on the heaters on their own.
If you have the outlet ON at all times it does not matter how your program your outlet because it will not follow it. The outlet needs to be on AUTO to follow the conditions of the program.
As others have mentioned I would not trust the temp settings on the heaters on their own.
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