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jle2003

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I have just measured the tank water cycling for 1 week

SG: 1.025. is it a little high? If it is, how do I bring it down?
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
PH: 8.4
Alkalinity: normal
Amonia: 0
Water cycling has been running for 1 week with 100 pounds LR and 40 pounds LS.

Is it ready to put some inverts in?
 

panmanmatt

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Your SG is ok but your PH seems a little high to me, should be closer to 8.2. IMO 1 week is not long enough for a cycle, seems like your's hasn't even started yet with your nitrates still at 0. Have you tested your water at all prior to this time? Did your ammonia and nitrites spike at all? Was your LR fully cured or uncured when you started? Most times a cycle takes at least 3-4 weeks.
 

jle2003

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Unfortunately, I did not test the water prior the cycle started. This is the first time I have test the water condition. I believed the LR were fully cured. So, should I wait for another week and retest the water again. Also, How do I bring the PH down?
 

PeeJ

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i would just wait for like a month. not good to buy expensive liverock and have them die on you
 

hdtran

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Actually, if it's cured LR from the LFS that you put in your tank, you won't see much (if any) cycle, as the crud that dies has died at the LFS, and the bacteria have populated as much as you have nutrients (which is none, since you have no livestock).

Assuming this is the case (and that when you sneak up on your tank at night, you see worms, dusters, etc.), then, I'd go ahead and put in a hermit or two (or a snail or two, your preference) and see how they do. Do you have any diatom or cyano blooms (even minimal)? The snails will consume those; the hermits will consume debris on your rock. You might just feed a flake or two.

SG of 1.025 is fine. pH of 8.4 is on the high side of normal (Fenner quotes 8.0 to 8.5), or 8.2 to 8.4 for reef aquarists. The pH will come down naturally as things metabolize. I wouldn't worry about the pH at 8.4.

Best of luck!
 

hdtran

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Well, first of all, let me warn you that any kind of crabs (strictly speaking, hermits are not crabs, but let's not got there) except for filter feeding crabs such as porcelain crabs are opportunistic omnivores, and when sufficiently hungry, even 'reef safe' crabs will go after your corals, anemones, snails, etc. (in no particular order). Supposedly, their task is to eat detritus & leftovers, not munch your expensive corals...

That said, the blue-legged hermits are reputed to be reef-safest, because (a) they are relatively peaceful, (b) they don't get too big. I've got blue-legged hermits, they're fine for me. Be sure to throw some extra shells in for them. Your LFS should carry them (shells & hermits).

For snails, the Mexican turbo is one of the best algae film grazers, and rights itself pretty well after falling down. Many astrea's do the "I've fallen down and I can't get up" bit, in my experience.

Best of luck!
 

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I've also heard that the dwarf zebra hermit variety is the least damaging as they remain fairly small. You might want to do some research on those before adding any to your tank, and be sure that you get the dwarf variety. There is a larger zebra hermit that can become... quite the opportunist :) You'll need to learn to tell the difference between the two if you opt to use these.

Good luck!
J.
 
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It's early to be worrying about hermit crabs. Curing of the live rock and cycling of the tank are two different things (see "The Natural Marine Aquarium-Reef Invertebrates" for more on curing).

What you want to do is boost the cultures of nitrifying bacteria so you can add fish and other specimens, yes? So, take a bit of raw shrimp/fish/squid (or similar), put it in a bit of old nylon hosiery, drop it in your tank and let it decompose. You will, at that point, begin to see the "cycle" as it's supposed to occur.

First, a rise in ammonia, then nitrites. Then, ammonia should drop, as nitrites blow your mind (All Yuor Mind Are Belong to Us!). As this occurs, nitrates should begin to creep up. As nitrates come up, ammonia should be dropping to zero levels, nitrites should drop. End result should be zero ammonia and nitrites, high(er) nitrates. If you have sufficient DEnitrifying bacteria in your (good quality) live rock, then nitrates will slowly come down, but know that these bacteria are rather slow growing.

Your pH is fine, don't fiddle with it. Your specific gravity is right where you want it for inverts. Since you're new, don't start off with sea stars at this point, the hermies and the snails will be cool. DO pay attention to what folks are telling you about which ones are more and less likely to do damage in the future. Also, know that there are folks who don't use any crabs of any sort because there is just no way of guaranteeing that any species will truly be safe. My own stance is that if you've set up the most natural setting possible (with regard to the size of the system, of course), no one creature should be able to reach such plague proportions as to wreak havoc. Another source for shells is craft shops, but do be sure to offer them their regular digs, just in a variety of sizes - many (if not most) hermits have particular preferences.

QUARANTINE EVERYTHING!!! (Yes, including inverts)
 

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