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btodd43

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8O Well- I figured I should test the salt mix after I got the salinity right with my refractometer (1.022) and let a gallon circulate for 24 hours,and then test it ( never done it ) and what I found was calcium is 375,strontium seems ok (salifert strontium test kitr is a nightmare) ph 8.0,Alk 2.9,but the magnesium is 970 whoa-way too low,have to put in 25 ml of magnesium to get it up to 1275. I won't be using Tropic Marin anymore....anybody know of the best salt I can buy that I can just mix and not have to test ? Thanks
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All salts have some issue. The most important think I think is to find a salt that you can get consistently and tweak as needed. I don't know of a perfect salt.
 

btodd43

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Thanks Righty- I've heard that switching salts can cause a tank crash- so I'll stick with Tropic Marin on the nano and just tailor it. Also thanks for the testing the water mixed answered my questions about why I kept chasing the numbers all the time. Now I just add the cal,mag to the new mix and let it circulate and put it in.
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Of all the salts I used, Tropic Marin was the best balanced salt. I just cant get it locally here. They have a Pro reef version as well now.

IO
CA - 260
Alk - 8.6 DKH
Mag - 800

Oceanic
CA - 550
Alk - 7.2 DKH
Mag - 1650

Tropic Marin
CA - 380
Alk - 9.6 DKH
Mag - 1100
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Hi ..first of all deep sorry about my English....I read samething about the salt on net last month...the address is www.aquacraft.net and they were speaking about R.15 research CA university...it worth to read.
They talk specially on three brand of salt.
1) Bio-sea
2) Marine Environment
3) Sea Salt
Who knows something about these salts????Is it true??? they beileve the salts are the best whole the world... :?:
 
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Bill, it's an add for aquacraft. No where in that site can you find the S-15 report. Just some barely readable grafts. Don't waste your day trying to find it.

Just use the best you can find in your area.

I recently switched from IO to Reef Cyrstals. No problemos.
 

btodd43

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Yeah Knowse- SNAKE OIL ! I've heard good things about Oceanic Brand also- But now Tropic Marin Makes a Pro- Reef also but it's in 5 gal containers- Do you ever test your water change water?
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FWIW, I'm using Tropic Marin for my upcoming reef. I've used TM, Instant Ocean, and NSW all to good effect.

As for Aquacraft's products and "literature," buyer beware.
 

guara

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Knowse...I just did the guestion for who knows something about S15 report!!!!and I dont' want that anybody waste their time .
My guestion is, that salt what they talking is good or not?
 

Len

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Hey guara,

The S-15 report, as with everything on Aquacraft's website, is nothing but an advertisement for the salts Aquacraft sells. Anything that tests very high on the S-15 report or any of their other "tests" are Aquacraft salts. In my experience and many other's, these are not good salts.
 
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btodd43":xfi1ufck said:
Do you ever test your water change water?

Nope, I just check salinity and temp. I do have a pH monitior, but I've been slack about putting in new batterys. *makes a mental note*

One thing that my friend and I dicuss often, is if the salt we're using completely dissolves. We both were using IO and would see undissolved salt in the bottom of the mixing buckets even after a week of mixing. Since switching to Reef Cyrstals (same man.) we haven't noticed anything undissolved. Also we both noticed that RC tends to "melt" on contact with the water. I don't know if it makes any difference or not, but just something that we both noticed.

Oh and Bill that 5g bucket of salt will save you money in the long run, but it's a pain to store! :lol:

Gaura, it's ok to ask! :P I just didn't want my bubby Bill to spend his morning trying to find it. He has more important things to worry about :wink:
 

btodd43

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Hi Knowse- Yeah- when I mixed the Tropic marin to 1.022 for 24 hours with a powerhead- I got calcium 375,magnesium 970,strontium ? (salifert kit-but low anyway) So now I add calcium, tons of magnesium (need 1300) and alittle strontium- And THEN let it mix for 24 hours and test again. But my concerns are if the Tropic Marin is low on these few things what about ALL the other things I can't test for? How would I know what to add? I want my little slice of the reef to get the best I can give it - You know how much we love it... I will wait until Tropic Marin Pro Reef comes in smaller containers and buy some.
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guara

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Len, It's just advertisement :evil: thank you for answer me ,I was with that doubt at least one year.
I was looking for on whole website to figure out if it was true or not,now you put it away. :wink:
 

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btodd43":3r7pdjhs said:
when I mixed the Tropic marin to 1.022 for 24 hours with a powerhead- I got calcium 375,magnesium 970

If you mix to more typical reef tank SG values like 1.025 or 1.026 you should see those numbers increase.
 

btodd43

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I am told that 1.022-1.023 is better for the fish - please correct me if I am wrong, Due to the hot weather I go up 1 point per day. Any thing wrong with keeping it at 1.022 ?
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ChrisRD

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Personally I wouldn't keep a reef that low. If you have corals/inverts in the system then I would stick with natural seawater parameters.

I believe you're referring to the theory that slightly lower-than-seawater SG levels help ease the burden of osmoregulation for our fish. Some keep FO systems at those lower SG values with that in mind. Having kept plenty of fish at those levels as well as at NSW parameters, I can't say I've ever noticed any benefit in real life. IMO there are other much more significant factors when it comes to fish health.

JMO & HTH
 

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